The Cold War shaped our history from the close of the Second World War. It was a power struggle between the United States and the USSR, which at one time engulfed the whole globe, in what may be termed ‘bi-polarity’ (i.e. a country has to either belong to one camp or the other.) Ever present was the threat of nuclear destruction and, for this reason, the Cold War never took on the proportions of open war. The purpose of this essay is to discuss how this tragic breakdown in international relations occurred, and how it might possibly have been avoided.
Roots of the conflict: It is best to discuss the Cold War in the context of the long-term economic rivalry between the United States and Russia. By the 1890s, America had exhibited her capacity to become the world’s greatest commercial power. With her inward expansion complete, she began looking overseas to expand commercially. Being a late-comer to the imperialistic race, America’s economic expansion demanded an ‘open door’ policy in which there would be no restrictions, such as tariff barriers, to free trading. This conflicted directly with Russia’s interests. Russia was thought, at the time, to have a ‘more backward neo-feudal economy’ and was less able to compete on such terms. These two nations first came into conflict on these central issues in Manchuria, China (a historical and geographic region of Russia and China in Northeast Asia.) Russia acquired leases and rights in the region from 1898 until it lost them in a war with Japan in 1904-1905. Russia regained control of the region in 1945 with the agreement from the allies at the Yalta Conference.[1]
America, however, wanted China to be sovereign, so that she could commercially exploit it to the full, whereas Russia proposed that China be divided into ‘spheres of influence,’ each free from outside commercial competition.
United States policy makers had for some time feared Russian expansion into Europe, and in 1914, when war broke out, that seemed the only alternative to a German victory. An ideological element was added to the fear when, in 1917, the Bolsheviks, who were openly devoted to the destruction of the world’s capitalist system, seized power in Russia.
The Bolshevik regime’s natural antagonism towards the world’s biggest capitalist nation was greatly accentuated, when the United States, together with other allied nations, attempted to topple the regime by force, from 1919 until 1922.
Having failed to do this, America supported the establishment of the ‘Cordon Sanitaire,’ whose aim was to diplomatically isolate the Soviet Union, and only recognised her as late as 1933. During this time, the United States government mounted many internal programs of opposition to communism, having its first ‘Red Scare’ in 1920. The 1939 Nazi-Soviet pact merely reinforced the well-established suspicion of Russia within the United States.
Thus the Cold War was built upon half a century of distrust and apprehension.
During this time, it should also be noted that Soviet policy had made a major shift from world revolution, so-dreaded by so many western capitalists, to Stalin’s ‘Socialism in one country.’[2] Also, by the most brutal and costly programs of industrialisation in world history, Russia’s economic potential had improved beyond recognition. By 1945, however, this tremendous machine lay badly mutilated, in the wake of a terrible and bloody war, awaiting recovery.
Immediate background to the conflict: The ‘Grand Alliance’ was welded between Russia, Great Britain, and the United States, at a time of dire peril in the face of axis [3] aggression, so naturally it was expected to be stronger in wartime than in peace, but few people could have foreseen the split between the allies that occurred so suddenly after the accomplishment of Nazi Germany’s defeat.
The first hint of any clashes of interest became evident from the first discussions between the allies regarding their respective post-war aims.
America’s best interests lay in a free and open Europe in which American business could freely invest its capital. In view of her fabulous wealth, the implications of the United States ‘open door’ policy on war-ravaged Europe, would have been staggering. America’s pursuit of her interests took on the high-minded guise of being a genuine desire to set up an independent and democratic Europe, as was laid down in the Atlantic Charter of 1941.
Russia, on the other hand, saw that she had a good case for demanding a settlement in Eastern Europe, that would guarantee her future security. Russia’s security required two things – firstly the rapid recovery of her war-torn industries and, secondly, that the countries on or near her borders be ‘friendly’ to the Soviet Union. For her economic recovery, she needed to extract reparations from the defeated Germany, as well as a huge multi-billion dollar loan from the United States. At this point in time, Russia lacked the United States’ ability to buy herself influence in ‘democratic’ governments to ensure those governments’ ‘friendliness.’ Instead, she had to use the age-old, and much less suitable, technique of direct force, that is, to occupy the land, suppress any anti-Soviet factions, and then to set up a puppet government – although this was not always the case – a notable exception being Finland.
These Russian-friendly governments were to be free of any outside commercial interference, hence opposed to America’s open door.
In the meantime, a war had to be fought. The tide turned and Germany and Japan were beaten in June 1941. When Hitler dishonoured his pact with Stalin and sent his armies eastward into Russia, it was largely thought amongst the western allies that Russia would not survive beyond the end of 1941. Nevertheless, both Great Britain and the United States, the latter which was not yet at war with the axis, sent aid to the Soviet Union to bolster her resistance, and when it became apparent that Soviet resistance would last longer than at first anticipated, a ‘second front’ was promised for early 1942, which would take much of the pressure off the Soviet armies. As it happened, a proper second front did not eventuate until June 1944, by which time the tide had already turned against Germany in Russia. To bring about this reversal, much Russian blood had been shed – many times more than had been shed by the western allies – and thus there was a deep feeling of resentment within Russia at having borne, by far, the brunt of the war. After June 1944, even with the Anglo-American armies on the European continent, and even though they undoubtedly helped hasten the conclusion of the war, the real war was being fought in the east where the Germans were desperately trying to ward off the dreaded Bolsheviks from their fatherland. During this period much acrimony was aroused on the part of the Soviets, who were suspicious that the western allies would seek a separate peace with Germany and leave Russia to fight on alone.
The notorious ‘Borne incident’ was one such instance which brought these tensions to the fore. Neverthelesss, the war was carried through to its conclusion. The western allies occupied most of western Europe, while the Soviets had most of Eastern Europe. Germany was in economic and political ruin and, within this power-vacuum, the three ‘great powers’ – the United States, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union, confronted each other.
Here, it should be pointed out that much of what Stalin had done in ‘liberated’ eastern Europe was not without precedent. In 1943, when Stalin asked if Russia might be included in the Italian settlement, he was refused, apparently on the grounds that Soviet forces had played no part in Italy’s liberation. In October 1944, Churchill, the Prime Minster of Great Britain, although apprehensive about Soviet expansion, was prepared to make a percentage deal with Stalin, regarding ‘spheres of influence’ in the Balkans. In Romania, Russia was to have 90% influence; in Bulgaria 80%, and in Romania 75%. In return, Britain was to get 90% influence in Greece and there was to be a 50-50 split in Yugoslavia.
In 1944-45, in strict compliance with this deal, Stalin allowed British forces in Greece to destroy the communist-led ELAS (Greek Peoples’ Liberation Army). He actually ordered the KKE (Greek Communist Party) leaders of this movement to instruct the ELAS fighters to give up their weapons to the British, who then secretly re-armed widely hated Greek Nazi collaborators. In Yugoslavia, at one time, he even urged the Communist leader, Tito, to abdicate in favour of the monarchy. This was hardly in the spirit of the ‘inexorable’ expansionism he was later alleged to embrace. He naturally thought American and British protests about similar Russian behaviour in Eastern Europe, to Britain’s in Greece, were hypocritical.
The question looming large in everybody’s mind was Poland. To Britain, Poland was the reason she had gone to war, and therefore Britain felt she had a moral responsibility to restore Poland’s full democratic rights. This would most likely mean the return to power of the ‘London Poles,’ headed by Mikolajczyk, who were forced to flee their homeland in 1939 and who were openly hostile to Russia. On the Polish question, America was committed to a democratic Poland, as laid down in the Atlantic Charter, but nevertheless United States President Roosevelt saw the need for a compromise. He later facilitated this by his vague agreements with Stalin at Yalta in 1945. One of these agreements was that ‘free’ elections were to be held throughout Eastern Europe, but the government returned had to be ‘friendly’ to the Soviet Union.
During the war, a number of unfortunate incidents had aroused much suspicion about Russia amongst the western allies, regarding Poland. In 1943, the Nazis, themselves mass-murderers of six million Jews and countless other Europeans, uncovered the graves of some ten thousand Polish officers, allegedly murdered by Soviet authorities. Although no-one can be sure who actually committed the atrocity, which became notorious as ‘Katyn Wood,’ it did much to embarrass the ‘Grand Alliance.’
During the latter half of 1944, the world watched to see the spontaneous Warsaw uprising crushed, while the Red Army, only on the other side of the Vistula River, apparently did nothing. Whether or not the Russians could actually have relieved the insurgent Poles, people found it difficult to believe that nothing could have been done, when the Russians were in sight of the city.
Russia’s plans for Poland were much more a reality than those of Great Britain or the United States, who were situated on the other side of the Globe. Many times throughout her history, and three times since 1914, Russia had faced bloody invasions from Polish territory. Poland’s obstruction did much to hinder Soviet efforts to stop Nazi expansion in the late 1930s. For these reasons, it was unthinkable to Stalin, that the new Polish government be unfriendly to the Soviet Union, and so a pro-Soviet government was set up at Lublin, Poland, in 1944. The Polish-Russian frontier was to be shifted westwards and, as a compensation, Poland was to get a large slice of German territory.
The death of F D Roosevelt in April 1945 and the advent of President Harry S Truman saw a major shift in US foreign policy direction. At Roosevelt’s death on 12 April, the way was still open for American and Russian co-operation after the war, but Truman, on April 23, “From the eminence of eleven days in power,” decided that he would lay down the law to the Russians, in his famous first talk with Russian foreign minister Molotov. Truman came to the conclusion that the Russians needed America more than America needed Russia, and so, after Russia had spilled the blood of twenty million of her countrymen, for a common cause, Truman declared words to the effect of, “If the Russians did not wish to join us, they can go to hell.” [4]
At the Potsdam conference after Germany’s defeat in 1945, both Truman and Attlee, the new Labor Prime Minister of Great Britain, started to throw their weight around in the knowledge of the successful atomic explosion in New Mexico. Reparations and the question of the dismemberment of Germany were of major importance at the conference. The Soviet Union declined to participate in the Marshall Plan, possibly because it did not want to reveal details of its economic resources. A large slice of Germany was given to Poland. The Soviet occupied the eastern half of what was left, while the rest was divided among France, Great Britain, and America. Berlin too, was divided between the four countries and this was going to lead to the Berlin Blockade, years later, where Russia tried to force the western allies out from deep within her territory.
At Yalta, 4-11 February 1945, Stalin had promised Roosevelt that the would attack Japan within three months of the conclusion of the hostilities in Europe. This, he carried out to the letter, declaring war on 8 August. But only two days previously on 6 August, Truman had ordered the first atomic bomb to be dropped on Hiroshima and, again, the day after on 9 August, he had a second atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki. Why this had to be done in such undue haste is not known, unless Truman had, by now, regretted that Russia was ever asked to participate in the Pacific war. By now he resented the territorial concessions Roosevelt had made to Stalin in return for his help, and now he wanted to end the war before the Soviets could advance too far into Asia. Whether or not the bomb was really necessary to bring about Japan’s defeat, given her hopeless situation at this point in time, the bomb was also meant as a crude attempt to extort further concessions in Eastern Europe and to deter her from any further possible expansion. This we can see from the fact that on the very day that Nagasaki was atomised, Truman declared that the East European countries were “not the spheres of influence of any one power.” This was the effective end of the coalition.
With this demonstration of the horrific destructive power of the atom bomb, added to the United States’ possession of huge bomber fleets with which to deliver it, the question of Soviet security became more vital than ever, and thus arose the need to tighten up the ‘Iron Curtain,’ as Churchill was to describe it, in his famous address on 5 March 1946.
On 12 March 1947, Truman decided to turn his local struggle against Russian expansion into an international crusade against Communism, when he announced the Truman Doctrine of Containment, whose aim it was to contain all Communist aggression wherever and whenever it occurred. He stated that “it must be the policy of the United States to help free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or outside pressure.” This policy made a number of false assumptions. One was that all communist subversion eminated from Moscow, and hence constituted aggression. It overlooked the fact that most ‘attempted subjugation’ really constituted the will by far of the majority of the people, particularly in many underdeveloped Asian countries and therefore his ‘policy of containment’ was to lead rather to the suppression of popular movements by armed minorities, notably in Vietnam.
To financially underwrite the ‘Truman Doctrine,’ the ‘Marshall Plan,’ engineered by General George C. Marshall, was announced. It promised aid to all European countreis in need of recovery and would take much of the sting out of many European communist movements, the most ntoable case being in the Italian general elections of 1948.
In response to the Marshall Plan, Russia formed an East European economic Union, known as Cominform, which would keep out any outside economic influences. With the establishment of Cominform, the ‘Iron curtain’ was well and truly dropped and Europe was divided between Western Capitalism and Communism. The ‘Cold War,’ which was to lead to an escalation in nuclear armaments and much bitter rivalry between East and West, was irreconcilably on. Not even the establishment of ‘detente’ between the US and the USSR in the 1970s would be able to wipe away the mark in East-West and particularly Russian-American relations.
NOTES
[1] In 1898, Russia acquired from China a 25-year lease of the Liaodong Peninsula and the right to build a connecting railway from the ports of Dairen (Dalian) and Port Arthur (Lüshun) to the Chinese Eastern Railway. The clash of Russian and Japanese interests in Manchuria and Korea led to the outbreak of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904–05.
After its defeat, Russia ceded to Japan all its interests in southern Manchuria. […]
At the Yalta Conference of February 1945, Soviet premier Joseph Stalin demanded the restoration of all former Russian rights and privileges in Manchuria as a price for Soviet entry into the Pacific war, an offer readily accepted by his fellow Allied heads of state. In May 1945, Soviet troops began to move from Europe to Asia. On August 8 the Soviet Union declared war on Japan and invaded Manchuria early on August 9. By August 15 the war was over, however.
[2] Before Stalin, communist theory held that communism could not succeed in the face of international capitalist system unless it became international itself. Stalin reinterpreted the theory to say that communism could succeed in isolation, in single countries. His argument was that fascists were the real enemy, against whom it was necessary to unite with capitalists, before supporting any workers’ revolutions. The outcome was that many worker revolutions went unsupported, for instance, in Greece, Italy, Germany, Hungary, and Spain, and some were actually sabotaged, such as in China, as Stalinists opposed workers’ revolutions in support of continued rule by the more apparently progressive capitalist parties who were supposedly sympathetic to the workers. This put Stalinists against Trotskyists, who supported communism as a necessarily international movement. George Orwell’s Hommage to Catelonia depicted the betrayal of the most militant workers’ parties in favour of rule by parties who were for the preservation of the capitalist system. See also, Felix Morrow, Revolution and Counter-revolution in Spain.
[3] ‘Axis’ was the name given to the alliance of Nazi Germany, Italy, Japan, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Rumania.
[4] [It was] a meeting at which, according to columnist Drew Pearson’s colorful description, Molotov “heard Missouri mule driver’s language.” At this celebrated clash, Truman reprimanded Molotov for the Soviet failure to carry out the Yalta accord on Poland, sharply curtailed the Soviet minister’s attempt at an explanation, and stated bluntly “that he desired the friendship of the Soviet government but that it could only be on the basis of mutual observation of agreements and not on the basis of a one way street.” Although Charles Bohlen’s official minutes do not record the incident, Truman claimed that in an acrimonious final exchange Molotov exclaimed that “I have never been talked to like that in my life,” to which he retorted: “Carry out your agreements and you won’t get talked to like that.” (Wilson D Miscamble, From Roosevelt to Truman: Potsdam, Hiroshima, and the Cold War (2007), page ix, cited in, “The day the cold war broke out,”in “President Truman and the origins of the Cold War,” https://www.johndclare.net/cold_war5_effect.htm
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Horowitz, David, From Yalta to Vietnam, Macgibbon and Kee, 1965.
Le Fieber, Walter, Origins of the cold War – 1941-1947, John Wiley and Sons, 1971
Patterson, J. G, The Origins of the cold War, DC Heath and Company, 1970
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Comments
Robert Chernenko (not verified)
Sun, 2022-05-01 22:49
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Comment on James Sinnamon's historical analysis
admin
Tue, 2022-05-03 18:53
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Today's rulers of Vietnam have betrayed their forefathers
Robert, much of the worth of the 1975 victory of the National Liberation Front over the US puppet government in Saigon had been lost as a result of the appalling destruction inflicted upon all of Vietnam by the Japanese, the French, then after 1956 by the U.S. and its allies., including Australia and New Zealand.
(I am unclear about the dates, but I should be able to obtain them with a little extra research) After many decades of trying to rebuild their country, the rulers of Vietnam accepted conditions imposed upon them by the IMF in order to obtain a loan. Thus began the process of transforming Vietnam back into the neo-colony that it has become today. The rulers of Vietnam have also turned their backs on their forefathers who sacrificed so much to fight against the United States and formed an alliance with that very same country..
Regarding the North Vietnam vs South Vietnam, what you write shows that the artificial division imposed on Vietnam in 1956 has become somewhat real since the 1980's. However, I know I read from an Australian political leader of the 1950's and 1960's (possibly Foreign Minister Richard Casey) that the Vietminh enjoyed as much support in the south as they did in the north (I can't find the source. Just possibly I will find a copy Robert Casey's autobiography in the State Library.) A provision of the 1956 Geneva peace agreement, which Ho Chi Minh stupidly complied with, was that Vietminh supporters in the South were required to move northwards into the newly created 'North' Vietnam. I presume that there was an equivalent migration by pro-colonialist Vietnamese into 'South' Vietnam, thus beginning to make the division of Vietnam somewhat less artificial.
When the war subsequently resumed, from the late 1950's I think, it was possible for the US, Australian governments and the corporate news-media, to depict the return to 'South' Vietnam of NLF fighters, who had previously lived there, as an 'invasion' of 'South' Vietnam by 'North' Vietnam.
Robert Chernenko (not verified)
Tue, 2022-05-03 21:23
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A Welcome Betrayal
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Tue, 2022-05-03 23:59
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7 million ton bombardment didn't cause Vietnam's 1980's poverty?
The American aerial bombardment of Vietnam only ended in 1975 roughly only 10 years prior to "the 1980's". During that war 7 million tons were dropped on one small country, whilst in all of the Second World War, right across most of the globe, only 2 million tons were dropped.
Had it occurred to you, that, just possibly, this and all that Agent Orange defoliant may have been at least as much the cause of what you describe as the supposed maladministration by the Vietnamese government?
Or, do you believe that, had the war continued and another 7 million tons of bombs were dropped on Vietnam, the prosperity you describe, as it continues to dig up unexploded US ordinance, would have come sooner?
Perhaps you also think that JFK was wrong to try to end the Vietnam War before he was murdered on 22 November 1963.
I find it astonishing that the government of a country so monstrously devastated by the United States could bring itself to form a military alliance with that same country, particularly as that country continues to inflict on other countries - Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Serbia, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Palestine, Ukraine, Venezuela, Bolivia, ... much of what it inflicted on Vietnam.
Robert, it's interesting that you concede that the Vietnamese government is corrupt. How could any government, let alone the government of Vietnam, that is prepared to form a military alliance with world's foremost rogue nation, not be corrupt?
How any Vietnamese government minister can look himself in the mirror each morning is a mystery to me.
Robert Chernenko (not verified)
Wed, 2022-05-04 00:30
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History is Shades of Grey
I haven't conceded anything, I've told the truth complete with shades of grey. Hopefully you'll one day mature and learn to do likewise.
I consider the above to be an ad hominem attack. - James
My wife is from Dalat, in the south central highlands, which was barely effected by the war. Throughout the war, people lived well and food was plentiful, including my wife's enormous family (12 children). After the war, the new government enforced economic policies that destroyed production and distribution, so for years my wife lived on little more than a meagre ration of fish sauce and sun dried sweet potato. Others were constantly hungry, not eating for days at a time. I have been told the same story by South Vietnamese over and over again for 40 years. I don't care what you've read, I trust the oral histories.
Also noteworthy is that Saigon, Vietnam's economic powerhouse, was relatively unscathed by the war and Hanoi, although extensively bombed, was able to function effectively throughout the war.
The immense poverty in Vietnam got better within years of the country opening to to the West, including the US, and introducing pro-market economic reforms. I Know this to be true because I saw it with my own eyes. It is also well documented in books etc ...
Whilst the above seems informative and coherent, it makes no attempt to respond to what I previously wrote, so I still consider it to be trolling. Whilst I have chosen to leave the above portion of the original post here, I have decided it is necessary for me to move the final paragraph to the "Troll Posts" page (and have added my response). - James
Further comment 4 May 2022: Upon further reflection, I have decided to copy back here, from the "Troll Posts" page, Robert's odious concluding paragraph and my response. I note that Robert has, so far, not attempted to respond in turn to that response. - James
Conclusion of History is Shades of Grey
Steve M (3/5/22): The most rogue, corrupt nations today are China, Russia, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and North Korea. At the moment, the worst culprit is the insane fascist criminal and war mongering mass murderer, Vlad Putin. Hopefully Putin will be shot dead then strung up from a metal girder, just like Benito Mussolini. Sláva Ukrayíni!
My comment: If we were to accept the claim that Russia's war against Ukraine, which supposedly started only as recently as 24 February, was unprovoked, that war is the only war Russia has started since 1968. In the same time, the US has waged a large number of bloody and illegal wars against Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya and Syria and meddled covertly in numerous other countries. So I feel somewhat mystified that Robert is so enraged at Russia's military action against the regime of US puppet President Zelensky in Kiev whilst being apparently indifferent to the numerous far greater crimes against humanity committed by the United States and its allies.
It would be interesting to see how most Russian would respond to "Hopefully Putin will be shot dead then strung up from a metal girder, just like Benito Mussolini." Unlike Mussolini, who was hated by most Italians when he was killed by Italian partisans on 28 April 1945, President Vladimir Putin enjoys overwhelming support in Russia (as well as amongst informed Ukrainians). Recent polls have shown Zelensky's popularity may be approaching that of il Duce amongst Italians in April 1945.
I will respond at some point in the near future to Robert's claim that Vietnam has prospered after opening up to, and even forming a military alliance with, the same United States that dropped 7 billion tons of bombs on it between 1964 and 1975 and which, according to Wikipedia, caused between 1,326,494 and 3,447,494 deaths.
James Sinnamon
Thu, 2022-05-05 22:43
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Vietnam is now the United States' ally?
Robert wrote:
In fact, you conceded that the Vietnamese regime, that has formed a military alliance against humanity with the same government that dropped 7 million tons of bombs on its territory and killed millions of its people, is corrupt.
Of course 'corrupt' is an understatement.
I don't know of any other example in history, where a people who have fought so hard to rid themselves of an occupying power and at such a terrible cost, has turned around and formed a military alliance with that same country. This is what the rulers of Vietnam have done. They are now allies of the United States in its war against humanity.
The apparent prosperity you described in Vietnam began as half a million Iraqi children alone were dying as a consequence of US sanctions imposed after the 1991 Gulf War. That war resulted from Saddam Hussein being led to believe by US ambassador April Glaspie, that Iraq could invade Kuwait to stop Kuwait from slant-drilling into Iraqi oil fields. The late infamous Madeline Albright notoriously said that she believed that "it was worth it" for the lives of 500,0000 children's lives to be lost as a consequence of the US's subsequent illegal sanctions of food and medicine.
Clearly, the US decision to normalise relations with Vietnam was a cynical attempt to bribe the government of Vietnam into submitting its people once again to US hegemony, whilst other peoples, in particular, the people of Iraq, were to receive, from the US, treatment in many ways similar to what it had already inflicted upon the people of Vietnam.
Evidently, the corrupt Vietnamese government accepted this bribe. For now, this bribe appears to have paid off for the United States.
Robert Chernenko (not verified)
Fri, 2022-05-06 18:57
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I have more trust in academic consensus than in obscure bloggers
Hi James, since you censor my comments and use aggressive language, further discourse with you would be unfructuous. Instead I'll spend more time on academic sites, like the superlative "The Conversation", where my concern about Russian propaganda is suitably fortified by dozens of learned academics in articles such as this: How Russia’s unanswered propaganda led to the war in Ukraine
Comment: In general, candobetter does not allow forum posts to include actual links or the URLs from which those links can be constructed (whilst text which implicitly shows what the actual URL is, is allowed). This is to avoid any likelihood of visitors clicking on links to pages containing malware. However, I have found the page pointed to by the implicit URL originally included in the above post does not to point to such a page. So I have converted the implicit URL into an actual link in order to allow other candobetter visitors to more easily visit that page on The Conversation and be able to form their own judgements on the content of that article. -- Ed
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Sat, 2022-05-07 02:41
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Not one example of Russian 'disinformation' quoted!?
Robert, briefly for now:
Firstly I reject your accusation that I have censored your posts to candobetter.
Secondly, from my initial brief overview of the article "How Russia’s unanswered propaganda led to the war in Ukraine" I am not impressed. I have not found in that article one actual quote from any of the articles on https://sputniknews.com, https://rt.com or any of rt.com's news bulletins or forum programs that can be shown to be untrue or misleading. I think you will find that this is because the author Oleksandr Pankieiev, "Editor-in-Chief of the Forum for Ukrainian Studies, Contemporary Ukraine Studies Program, Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies, University of Alberta" was unable to find any.
I note the riveting discussion beneath Oleksandr Pankieiev's article. In the 5 weeks since that article was published on 31 March, all of two comments have been posted! (In fact, discussion was closed after only 72 hours. See below.)
I will deal with Oleksandr Pankieiev's article and Robert's above post more comprehensively tomorrow.
Update, 8 May 2022:
Upon yet more reflection, I have decided that I can rest my case against How Russia’s unanswered propaganda led to the war in Ukraine (31/3/22) by 'learned academic' Oleksandr Pankieiev. (I was about to post a comment to that article on The Converation including a link back to here, but found that comments were closed after only 72 hours!)
As with all other smearing of Russian newsmedia as 'disinformation' that I have come across in recent years, not one actual quote of such 'disinformation' is provided, not even a quote taken out of context. The only remotely plausible explanation of this omission, is that no such disinformation exists.
Regarding Robert's accusation that I have censored his posts, copies of everything he has ever posted to candobetter are still on candobetter. However, for reasons I have explained, posts I consider to be disingenuous and abusive have been copied to the "Troll Posts" page, thence deleted from where they were originally posted. Links to that page, together with explanations, have been provided so that other site visitors can form their own conclusions about my handling of these posts.
Arnold (not verified)
Sat, 2022-05-07 12:40
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Not impressed by 'superlative' 'The Conversation' either
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