Both sides of parliament are saying that the problem is asylum seekers dying at sea as they attempt to reach Australia. Other groups claim that we are "racist" and "xenophobic" for being heartless, and that we have the capacity for an open-door approach of the Greens. There are probably millions, if not billions of impoverished, persecuted peoples who see Australia as a "rich" country and an ideal soft target for resettlement. This is despite the pressure on jobs, housing, infrastructure, food security and environmental concerns. If we need to make a deal with Malaysia, or Indonesia, we should be free to do so. The solution is to discard our alliance with the UN Refugee Convention.
Julian Burnside: Australia does not want boat people, dead or alive
The Australian government is currently embroiled in a heavy debate over asylum seekers in light of the recent tragedy. Both sides of parliament are saying that the problem is asylum seekers dying at sea as they attempt to reach Australia but, "they just don't want boat people getting here at all, dead or alive," the Australian barrister Julian Burnside told ABC radio.
Of course our government doesn't want asylum seekers. It prefers the well-heeled and educated immigrants. Burnside says Australia needs to set up a fair dinkum, fair processing system in Indonesia with the co-operation of the Indonesian government.
The safe and off-shore selection of approved refugees being settled orderly into Australia is the obvious solution to the problem but one that doesn't want to be mentioned or accepted.
Other groups claim that we are "racist" and "xenophobic" for being heartless, and that we have the capacity for an open-door approach supported by the Greens.
According to a recent Monash report, the Australian Government is running a record-high migration program, which it intends to increase in 2012–13. Just over half of the migrants are locating in Sydney and Melbourne, rather than in the resource industry states. At the same time as the Labor Government is permitting employers to sponsor an unlimited number of temporary entry 457 visa holders.
It means we will have the highest annual permanent entry level since World War Two.
The 2012–13 immigration program: record numbers, city-bound by Bob Birrell and Genevieve Heard
Population pressure already on Australia
There are probably millions, if not billions of impoverished, persecuted peoples who vie Australia as a "rich" country and an ideal soft target for resettlement. This is despite the pressure on jobs, housing, infrastructure, food security and environmental concerns.
Already Australia has shortages of public housing, hospital beds, public funding for education, and health care. The "Lucky country" has been exploited for its full extent, and housing is either un affordable or people are under mortgage stress.
The carbon tax will exacerbate the heavy costs of energy infrastructure that continually must expand for our burgeoning population.
The Refugee convention
Australia is one of 147 signatory countries to the Refugees Convention. In the 2010–11 program year, the Humanitarian Program delivered 13 799 visas. This number included 8971 visas granted to persons offshore and 4828 program countable visas granted to people seeking protection in Australia.
UN High Commissioner for Refugees António Guterres warned in May 2012 that factors causing mass population flight are growing and over the coming decade more people on the move will become refugees or displaced within their own country.
"The world is creating displacement faster than it is producing solutions," said Guterres.
Guterres said displacement from conflict was becoming compounded by a combination of causes, including climate change, population growth, urbanization, food insecurity, water scarcity and resource competition.
Australian political fixation with asylum seekers
Australia’s fixation with asylum seekers arriving by boat has cost taxpayers nearly $2.4b since 2000, according to Budget and ANAO documents. The expenditure includes spending to deter, process and most of all detain asylum seekers who have arrived by boat. The cost also does not include hundreds of millions spent on border security measures adopted under the Howard Government.
We simply cannot afford to increase our humanitarian settlement while we are forced to devote a disproportionate amount of resources to dealing with boat arrivals, which is a very expensive proposition. For the first four years of any increase in our Humanitarian Program, every additional 1000 resettlement places would cost the Australian Budget around $216 million. By extension, an increase to 20 000 would cost the Budget around $1.35 billion over the first four years. (Minister for Immigration, Chris Bowen 2012).
If we need to make a deal with Malaysia, or Indonesia, we should be free to do so. The solution is to discard our alliance with the UN Refugee Convention. All the costs and debate could easily be solved.
Refugees in a changing world
The UNHCR said last year that 43.7 million people were displaced by conflict, poverty, famine and persecution — the highest number in 15 years. Our planet is not a series of endless frontiers, but a fragile spaceship with limited resources, already overloaded by humanity. There are no new colonies so settle in, no new frontiers to invade and conquer.
Mr Burnside said Australians seemed to be unable to accept the premise of the UN Refugee Convention which states that countries have some obligation to offer protection to people facing persecution and violence.
"Unfortunately, I think Australia has not quite worked out whether it's willing to carry that burden."
Mr Burnside is obviously speaking from a position of privilege and wealth! It's assumed that Australia is a vast brown and empty land with room to share for any millions of people! There's no consideration for our environmental "carrying capacity" - and social and economic constraints. Already we are under population stress, and we already have the record as the biggest wildlife exterminator in the world.
Australia should withdraw from outdated UN Refugee Convention
We need to withdraw from the outdated 1951 UN Refugee Convention. The UN should not dictate how we manage our diplomatic affairs. We are a sovereign nation. This is a relic from a different era when peoples were displaced by World War 2 and the holocaust.
The Vietnamese boat-people came at a time when Australia has room to spare and we were still a wealthy nation. Population pressure and globalization has eaten into and diluted our wealth.
The world today is a vastly different place than it was in 1951, and the ability of the Convention to address increasingly complex drivers of displacement and migration is limited. Many experts argue that the current framework is ill-suited to meet new drivers of human mobility, but the prospects of a new international agreement are few.
Need for a more equitable immigration system including humanitarian intake
In response to the demands of responsible global citizenship, and a more equitable system of immigration, we should slash our unrealistically high economic immigration levels, invest in skills training and tertiary education, and increase our humanitarian intake - selected off-shore only. The random arrival of boats, and the shipwreck disasters, would ultimately decline.
REFERENCES
Source for part of this information and opinion was an Age article, by Rachel Olding, "Asylum seeker impasse 'pathetic': QC's plan to stop the boats," June 29, 2012.
Comments
Tigerquoll
Sun, 2012-07-01 11:06
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Border Protection Lip Service
anon (not verified)
Sun, 2012-07-01 15:06
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Charity begins at home!
Marg (not verified)
Sun, 2012-07-01 15:33
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Withdraw from the UN Refugee Convention
Anonymous (not verified)
Sun, 2012-07-01 16:01
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Oz Is Not For Sale
John Marlowe
Sun, 2012-07-01 18:13
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Hanson Young reduced to tears
playful (not verified)
Sun, 2012-07-01 18:44
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Is Hanson-Young related to Pauline Hanson?
admin
Sun, 2012-07-01 18:37
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CDB Ed: Oz sale and immigration politics
The Australia First comment and statement above ["Oz Is Not For Sale"] is powerful and seems to express what many Australians feel. The part of the comment that maintains that Australia is a European-derived civilisation would also find widespread agreement. We should point out, however, that a large section of readers and writers at Candobetter have grave doubts about the course of European civilisation, its reliance on fossil fuel, its so-called representative democracy, and its own history of imperialism. The crushing of nomadic hunter gatherer peoples by Europeans is not a proud part of Australian history. Arguably it ended 40-60,000 years of (self-evidently durable) nomadic arcadia.[1]
If we put this tragedy aside, writers like Bob Birrell in Federation, the secret story, Duffy & Snellrove, 2001, have argued well that Australians used to know who they were and where they wanted to go, and maybe still do, if only their politicians and media represented them faithfully:
On the question of foreign ownership of land: If Australia only allowed selling of land to Australian citizens and limited leasing, foreign buyers would not be such a threat.
On the question of who migrates: If Australian corporate and political elites would stop demanding and enabling ridiculously high immigration - from any or all parts of the globe - the problem of ethnic definition - as in "Australia is a European-derived civilisation" or "We are a multicultural society" would not exist and neither would the risk of civil unrest through competition for scarce resources between separately identified groups.
[1] After the collapse of the Roman power in the west, Arcadia became part of the Greek-speaking Byzantine Empire, until 1460. Arcadia remained a beautiful, secluded area, and its inhabitants became proverbial as herdsmen leading simple pastoral unsophisticated yet happy lives, to the point that Arcadia may refer to some imaginary idyllic paradise, immortalized by Virgil's Eclogues, and later by Jacopo Sannazaro in his pastoral masterpiece, Arcadia (1504); see also Arcadia (utopia). Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia#Ancient_history
Anonymous (not verified)
Sun, 2012-07-01 19:27
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The UN is not the problem.
Julianne Bell (not verified)
Sun, 2012-07-01 21:22
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Withdrawal from UN Refugee Convention?
Quite frankly, I don't know why I should bother replying to this ill informed, biased claptrap but am prepared to make a few points:
1. You say "There are probably millions, if not billions of impoverished, persecuted peoples who see Australia as a "rich" country and an ideal soft target for resettlement." This is offensive, untrue and denigrates refugees and comes over as propaganda against refugees. People fleeing from persecution don't deliberately calculate which country is a "soft target."
2. You are seriously ill informed about how refugees arrrve here - as one commentator says most arrive by plane. They hand in refugee claims at the airport. The "boat people" are a tiny percentage of refugees accepted by Australia. They have been demonised by politicians including John Howard for political purposes. Note that 90% of refugee claimants processed by Australia whether onshore or off shore obtain refugee status.
3. Australia could find ourselves an international pariah if we withdrew from the UN Convention on Refugees. It would put us in a category with some of the worst military dictatorships in the world.
4. You want to throw away the rule book ie the UN Convention on Refugees so that we can send refugees to 2 nations that are not signatories to the Convention.
5. If we abandoned the criteria for refugees set out in the Convention - a well founded fear of persecution on grounds of race, religion, ethnicity etc. then we have no basis for judging/processing refugees.
6. It is a remarkable irony that we are sending the flower of young Australians to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban but are not welcoming Afghani refugee claimants fleeing from the Taliban. The Hazara ethnic minority are a well known target of the Taliban.
7. You might not think highly of Federal public servants but having worked in Immigration for 17 years about 4 spent processing onshore refugee claims including Sri Lankan and Afghani I can tell you that interviewers are very skilled and can soon determine if the claimant is genuine. We had excellent interpreters who could pick dialects and knew exactly where the claimants came from. We were supplied with information about what fighting was going on in their homeland. Immigration assessors know their jobs. Any security questions are referred to ASIO.
8. Here are the suggestions made by the Greens and are similar to those presented to the Government by Get Up! and the Edmund Rice Centre.
... Australian Greens have proposed four immediate actions that could be taken by the Prime Minister today (this was during the debate) to prevent more drownings at sea:
(i) Increase Australia’s humanitarian intake from 13,750 to 20,000, including additional places to be immediately allocated to targeted resettlement of 1,000 people from Indonesia and 4,000 people from Malaysia;
(ii) Immediately increase funding to the United Nations High Commission for Refugees by $10 million to boost the capacity of Refugee Status Determination assessments in Malaysia and Indonesia;
(iii) Enter urgent discussions between Australia and Indonesia to address the critical need for cooperation and effectiveness of intelligence sharing and resourcing between Australia and Indonesia in order to save lives at sea; and
(iv) Codify Australia's Safety of Life at Sea Convention 1974 obligations across all relevant government agencies and increase Australia's rescue capacity in Australia's northern waters.
I fully support these suggestions.
The whole question of whether we should reduce Australia's extraordinarily high skilled migration intake and work out what is a sustainable population for Australia is another separate question.
Signed Julianne Bell
nimby
Tue, 2012-07-03 09:38
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tiny percentage of refugees consumes the immigration debate
Tigerquoll
Thu, 2012-07-05 21:30
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SportsBet on Asylum Seekers
Greg Boyles (not verified)
Sat, 2014-07-12 01:36
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Boat arrivals a tiny percentage?
Arthur (not verified)
Sat, 2014-07-12 13:02
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boat people used as wedge tactic
Agent Provocateur
Sun, 2012-07-01 21:40
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..Controlled Refugee intake prevents more sinister outcomes!?!
John Marlowe
Sun, 2012-07-01 23:09
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Hanson-Young's extremism forced Bob Brown to quit?
Senator Hanson-Young has stated last month that as the New Greens "We don't support polyamorists' marriage", end of quote, had, and I quote him, "outraged many Greens".
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/perhaps-bob-brown-and-sarah-hanson-young-dont-really-like-their-facebook-friends/story-fn72xczz-1226385344143
Bob Brown has suddenly resigned from the Greens at a time when Sarah Hanson-Young has become very toey for power.
Last November, Bob Carr, before his annointment had called on Commonwealth Ombudsman Allan Asher to resign after it emerged the watchdog wrote questions for Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young to ask him in a parliamentary committee.
“His behaviour is indefensible,” Mr Carr said of Mr Asher, who while admitting he did not take a "wise route" has stood by his conduct.
“It's plain unethical for an Ombudsman to write questions for politicians grilling him at a Senate budget estimates committee,” Mr Carr wrote in his blog.
Senator Hanson-Young obliged, producing evidence from Mr Asher that his immigration investigations were hindered a by lack of funds.
In a statement today, Mr Asher defended his conduct but said in hindsight it was not the best course of action.
Hanson (Flood Gate) Young (5th June) steering the New Greens, post Bob:
"We Greens will keep insisting that Australia honours its international obligations to offer protection under the Refugee Convention. We will ensure Australia remains the land of the fair go, which assesses people’s claims for protection here on the mainland, and not offshore. We’ll continue standing up against those who would demonise asylum seekers and refugees, because they deserve our help, not hardened hearts."
New Greens Platform: Illegals settling in a town or household next to you - they deserve your help!
John Marlowe
Anonymous (not verified)
Sun, 2012-07-01 23:58
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Can you define "illegals"?
John Marlowe
Mon, 2012-07-02 19:25
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Illegals are anonymous who are not legal
Alan Ditmore (not verified)
Mon, 2012-07-02 02:48
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refugee and boat policy
George from Mel... (not verified)
Mon, 2012-07-02 09:51
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Refugee Convention (RC) exploration needed.
CSI (not verified)
Mon, 2012-07-02 18:58
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"Greens" now actually Reds
Geoffrey Taylor
Tue, 2012-07-10 15:12
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World's leading environmentalist a 'Red'
Whilst I share your concerns about the Greens, and a good many who bear labels such as "Red", "Trotskyist," "communist", "anarchist" or"socialist" these days, we should not forget the world's leading environmentalist, the now retired President Fidel Castro (or rather Fidel Castro Ruz), who successfully transformed Cuba from dependence upon Soviet oil imports in the 1990's, as shown in the film The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil, proudly wears the label 'Red'.
Throughout much of the early 20th century, many of the very best of humanity, including the #comment-173372">unfairly maligned Lenin would have proudly labeled themselves "Red". Unfortunately Stalin's rise to power and his vast crimes against peasants and political opponents, most of all within the Soviet Communist Party, have blackened the name of 'communism'.
Sadly even those who claim the heritage of Leon Trotsky, who also fought against Stalin, have obviously been corrupted. This is shown by the way they have for decades left the Shock Doctrine globalists free to ravage the world to suit their interests. Prior to that, in the 1960's, they covered up for the Warren Commission. The Warren Commission whitewashed the conspiracy to murder President Kennedy and made possible the subsequent murders of JFK's brother, Robert, and Martin Luther King, about which most "Reds" have also been strangely silent about in the latter part of the 20th Century.
Anonymous (not verified)
Tue, 2012-07-10 16:59
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Correction: Greens not Democrats
Geoffrey Taylor
Tue, 2012-07-10 22:01
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Unsubstantiated "established wisdom" about maligned person
Anonymous wrote:
By all means, provide substantiation here or else links to material which substantiates your doubts, but I think you will find, should you attempt to do so, you will be unable to.
Another, who #10;page-1/#comment-173327">attempted on another forum to restate conventional smears against Lenin, when #10;page-1/#comment-173327">challenged to substantiate his/her smears, failed to do so. That post has also been published here on candobetter.
It's all too easy for ill-informed people to restate unproven supposed established wisdom about a demonised historical figure such as Lenin, but when such a person is faced on the Internet by another, with knowledge of the person he/she is attempting to malign, he/she will quickly lose his voice (or if he/she has humility and honesty will admit his/her mistake).
Anonymous (not verified)
Tue, 2012-07-10 13:26
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Asylum seekers not that poor
Mary (not verified)
Fri, 2012-07-13 12:09
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Rubbish on Christmas island blocking turtles
Christmas Island is so full of flotsam and jetsam, hatchling turtles can’t get through the garbage to get to the sea. A year-round nesting ground for green and hawkbeak turtles. This Australian island sits in the Indian Ocean near Indonesia. It's swelling population can't cope with humanity's flotsam and jetsam.
Petition: Clean Up Christmas Island at http://www.thepetitionsite.com/901/118/674/clean-up-christmas-island/
Paul Nicholas of Queensland was holidaying on Christmas Island, visiting his daughter and family and they went for a picnic on the beach.
The kids started playing with all the plastic trash and were amazed to find turtles struggling to emerge from their nest to the waters edge.
Boats of asylum seekers were joining an ever-expanding graveyard in the ocean off Christmas Island are not being properly scuttled or stripped of rubbish and engines, potentially harming the area's pristine waters.
Legal (not verified)
Tue, 2012-07-17 21:15
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Legal skilled immigrants
Geoffrey Taylor
Wed, 2012-07-18 00:47
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Skilled migrant importation hurts Third World and workers here
The above post reads, in part, like promotional literature from an imported labor hire agency.
2012 Legal wrote:
In fact, I know I wrote on a forum, either on candobetter or elsewhere, that the intentional importation of skilled workers, including nurses and trained doctors, away from Third World countries into industrialised nations such as Australia, is a scam against the people of those countries and also against workers in the industrialised countries themselves who are denied training and career advancement as a consequence. An illustration of this is how there are more Ethiopian doctors in the US than in Ethiopia itself.
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