Copenhagen indeed has proven yet 'Another overhyped talkfest in a series of duds!'
Copenhagen's much hyped COP15 was all navel gazing on communications consultants' hype. Like Copenhagen tourism, I bet the consultants pocketed nicely! And what a setting, beautifully detached Copenhagen!
Arrogant to the needs of developing nations and of sea-level nations and strangely even to the needs of developed nations, Copenhagen was doomed to fail. Copenhagen was doomed to fail simply on the basis of distrust on entry by each of the 192 nations and on account of the threatening opening speech of the conference.
The previous climate forum of 12 years before, labelled the 'Kyoto Protocol', had developed/industrial nations in breach of its undertakings. So with trust breached by industrial nations going into Copenhagen, any offerings of goodwill by developing nations had been undermined before the Danish talks commenced.
So on the back of this leadership shamozzle, do gooding Scandanavians held fast to host 192 disunited countries make cast iron national decisions under the pressure of just 2 weeks. Forced marriages are outlawed in civilised countries these days.
Worse is that the participants were being asked to commit to economic restrictions in the wake of a global financial crisis so that the UN could impose a sense of idealism at a time when pragmatically traits of a recession lingered. Perhaps this aim was a tad adventurous.
When it comes to complex global issues posing long-term adverse economic, social and environmental consequences whose expectations thought a two week brainstorming session by opposing ideologies under duress would deliver a silver bullet consensus blueprint appeasing developed and developing nations in one go?
It's Alice in Wonderland and if the Danish government were accountable beyond its tourism boom it would make publicly transparent the total conference costs, the total greenhouse gas emissions by staging the conference.
Copenhagen was just another wasteful talkfest as predicted. The Scandinavians should think twice next time about offering their white knight image to solve the dirty world's problems.
Tuvalu should host the next one in a year's time, at the complete expense of the top 3 worst greenhouse gas polluters. Nothing like working at the 'coal face' to deal with the real problems and issues.
But wherever the next conference is held, it must be preceded by a series of multilateral negotiations on each of the issues with agreements and funding already legally secured. This should be done using online conferencing not airline fuels. Such a complex overarching conference can only be a consolidation of previously secured agreements.
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Vivienne (not verified)
Fri, 2009-12-18 09:02
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The elephant in the room was ignored
Tigerquoll
Fri, 2009-12-18 15:22
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Logger Compo (REDD) is a good outcome
Ranking countries on the basis of carbon emissions per capita has merit just like ranking according to aggregate carbon emissions. The reduction responses and funding of carbon reduction programmes should be proportional on both bases.
There are many related issues and many causes and many options.
The first step should start by being pragmatic and focusing on what works the fastest and has most reduction impact. While population growth is indeed a herd of elephants charging in the room, in the short term only wars and famine would make a noticeable impact and I think that is too unethical. One child policies cannot work in democracies.
Better to have focused on what works fastest most effectively. Tackling deforestation is the fastest and is simply a matter of compensation being paid by the haves to the have nots. As it turns out the 'have nots' are the ones ripping down native forests the fastest.
If Copenhagen had just addressed deforestation, it would have achieved a significant inroad - 20% reduction in one year or something in that order.
News of the pledge by US based Climate Progress of US$1 billion over three years towards decreasing deforestation is an excellent outcome. The funding will go to developing countries that develop REDD (Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Degradation) programs.
I like the term 'Logger Compo'.
Developing countries need the money, the world needs to keep its forests intact - a simple, workable, political solution. They could have let Obama announce it and his global followers would be happy.
Tiger Quoll
Snowy River 3885
Australia
Vivienne (not verified)
Sat, 2009-12-19 14:52
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Kevin Rudd wants a big nation
Tigerquoll
Sat, 2009-12-19 21:12
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Ruddism does not sound like a branch of ecology
Someone should inform Kevin that 'big is not better'. Perhaps Rudd has Obama-envy.
If Rudd wants to perform for Australia's interests and not his own, Rudd needs to start achieving quality not quantity on combatting climate change, because after 18 months Australia is knee deep in committees and speeches, yet parched on betterment results. Since coming to PM-ship what has Rudd done to combat deforestation in Australia? What new national parks has Rudd announced?
The days of thinking big 20th Century Fox scale industry is just going to dig us a deeper economic boom-bust cycle and worsen urban Australia's greenhouse gas cultural addiction. Obama and Rudd both would do well to invest less energy into speech craft and more into tangible ecological results.
Ecological science is about life processes, distribution and abundance of organisms, the movement of materials and energy through living communities, the successional development of ecosystems, and the abundance and distribution of biodiversity in context of the environment
Rudd would be better informed by having fewer economists on his staff and just one independently thinking ecologist to informing him what the above paragraph means.
The Gunns board made a strategic mistake culturally shifting away from its core hardware industry to what the latest charismatic CEO thought was a gangbuster - harmful deforestation. What drugs were the board on that day? Tasmania is a local pure New Zealand within Australia with one of the rarest opportunities for leading the new green industry revolution in every one of its industries, yet 19th Century Gunns has committed to rape and corrupt Tasmania natural assets and condemn the island to pure image pergatory.
Yes Vivienne, the 'per capita' benchmark is a more honest comparable measure of a country's performance and instantly discounts those who say wait and do nothing until the big emitters move. Such folk in need of guidance should perhaps form a 'Sheep Party' and then advertise for a shepherd.
The proven analysis technique of 'Standard Costing' should be applied to greenhouse gas measurement. It has similar benefits to measuring socio-economic performance on a 'per capita' basis.
Tiger Quoll
Snowy River 3885
Australia
Anonymous (not verified)
Sun, 2009-12-20 18:29
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Per capita emissions mean squat to Mother Nature
Tigerquoll
Mon, 2009-12-21 13:08
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Per Capita consumption highlights problem at an individual level
Tim,
RE: Your comment 'Per capita emissions mean squat to Mother Nature'
Clearly the biggest polluters and biggest aggregate consumers like the US are causing the most greenhouse damage to the planet. But my argument is that why should countries like Australia, despite being comparatively smaller overall contributors to the greenhouse gas emission problem, be less complicit when on a per capita basis we are high contributors? Australia remains one of the highest per-capita polluters in the world, and the developed country most at risk from climate change. "The 'per capita entitlements' approach takes as its starting point the equal right of each person to use the atmosphere as a global commons. In a pure per capita approach, there is no reference to current emissions levels, but simply a global budget allocated equally to countries based on population." [UNDP - Bali Road Map]
Countries keep finding excuses for why they don't have to change their consumption habits. Australia says wait and see what the US and China do. China says developed nations should do their bit first. The US says China needs to be accountable. Finger pointing was one of the cause why Copenhagen failed.
The problem of global warming we are told is due to humanity's excessive greenhouse gas emissions. The problem needs to be realised at a global, regional, national, city and individual level.
Tim, are you suggesting that individuals are only responsible for our environmental problems on a collective basis? The sum of the individual parts usually exceeds the whole. Surely tackling a problem that has been avoided over successive decades in favour of decadence warrants tackling it from both the collective and individual levels in order to catch up to where we should be? I like the synergistic approach where different entities cooperate advantageously for a final outcome.
As far as I can gleam from the little I know about climate change fighter, George Monbiot, he is vocally and constructively contributing to the debate on climate change. I agree with his view that "drastic action coupled with strong political will is needed to combat global warming".
He also has merit in recommending
* Setting targets on greenhouse emissions using the latest science;
* Issuing every citizen with a 'personal carbon ration';
* New building regulations with houses built to German passivhaus standards
* Banning incandescent lightbulbs, patio heaters, garden floodlights, and other inefficient technologies and wasteful applications;
* Constructing large offshore wind farms;
* A new national coach network to make journeys using public transport faster than using a car
* All petrol stations to supply leasable electric car batteries with stations equipped with a crane service to replace depleted batteries;
* Scrap road-building and road-widening programmes, redirecting their budgets to tackle climate change;
* Reduce UK airport capacity by 90%;
* Closing down all out-of-town superstores and replacing them with warehouses and a delivery system."
[Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Monbiot]
Monbiot isn't perfect, but who is? I question his idea about piping hydrogen instead of liquid petroleum gas. But at least he is contributing more than most. If we only let PhD'd experts to criticise or offer ideas, we would be a poorer society indeed. Go along to any community meeting on any subject and you will be impressed with just how much inherent knowledge and inventiveness lies out there untapped. We should each be questioning all of the main contributors to greenhouse gases and debating all suggestions like the ones Monbiot espouses.
Australia is still head long into building wider highways as if we are stuck in 1960, despite the performance our PM Rudd gives when on global tour.
Yes, immigration is relevant too. But really it is just shuffling around the global overpopulation problem and NIMBYism is starting to kick where population is being poorly managed. A core driver of greenhouse gases is excess demand which has it root cause in overpopulation itself. Other root causes of greenhouse gas emissions are excessive consumerism (aggregate and per capita) and the cultural premise that economic growth his good and no growth is infinitely bad and depressing. I have often thought of imposing a fat tax on anyone over a certain BMI, but that would draw human rights criticism. If we are challenging western excesses, do individuals have a right to engorge?
Others should be offering alternatives in the same way George Monbiot is flagging the problem and offering alternatives at the national and individual levels.
Tiger Quoll
Snowy River 3885
Australia
For Tim's response to this comment: see "It is socially responsible to be socially irresponsible" of 4 Jan 09.
Sheila Newman
Sun, 2009-12-27 20:22
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Problems with per-capita in emissions measurement
Anonymous (not verified)
Sun, 2009-12-20 18:17
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In a one-party growthist state, there is no right or left
Tigerquoll
Mon, 2009-12-21 11:48
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To understand major party choice, identify their policy drivers
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