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Excerpt: Mifepristone has been safely used by millions of women in more than 50 countries who have had access to it for several years. It is a safer, less invasive procedure than the alternatives not just because it can be performed much earlier than surgical abortions, but because it can be done safely in the privacy of a woman’s home without surgical intervention. The expansion of access to medical terminations by tele-medicine is particularly important to women living in rural and regional Australia. These women have to travel long distances or indeed travel interstate to undergo surgery or not had the option of surgery at all. Home-based medical abortion is intended to simplify the medical abortion regimen without compromising safety. Home-based medical abortion improves the acceptability of medical abortion by allowing for greater privacy than in-clinic abortion and giving women greater control over the timing of the abortion. In reports from France, Sweden, Tunisia and the United States, the majority of women opted for home-based medical abortion when offered the choice. Self-administration of the drugs is already common in France and the United States.

Australia Point Piper, Australia - 27 September 2015 Political activists concerned with plans to resettle 12,000 Syrian refugees in Australia faced police while delivering a petition to the house of Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in Point Piper, Sydney on September 27, 2015. Seven members of the right-wing Party For Freedom called on the PM to resettle the refugees, many of which are expected to be Muslim, in his affluent electorate of Wentworth and surrounding areas. Their petition follow suggestions that in line with the current humanitarian resettlement model, Sydney may take up to 7,000 of the 12,000 refugees, with the majority housed in Fairfield and Liverpool in Sydney's west. Party For Freedom leader Nick Folkes told Newzulu that despite asking "probably 150" people in the area, the petition only attracted one signature.

Amazing film. Truly amazing. Not only did it make the point that the "War" on Iraq was a trumped up crime based on lies and was also illegal, but the last 20 minutes of the film also made the amazingly good point that the "War" on Syria is trumped up, based on lies and illegal too. Bravo! The film will open world-wide in May 2016.

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Letter writers bemoan the buying up of real estate by cashed-up foreign interests to the exclusion of locals, and the proliferation of high-density dwellings or "monuments to mammon". What will they make of a $30billion-plus Chinese-backed plan for a hi-tech "city" of 80,000 residents in the outer west? Residents are reportedly to be sourced from "tapping into soaring demand from China for education in Australia". The "Australian Education City" is to house residents in towers of up to 50 storeys. Makes the buying up of residential properties seem like small biccies. Deborah Morrison, Malvern East Read more: (27/9/15) | The Age | Letters Follow us: on Twitter | theageAustralia on Facebook

"People must not look away from the terrible things happening on the way to Europe just because we cannot get a visa," Abdullah Kurdi told Germany's Bild newspaper on Saturday. He is the father of Aylan, whose tiny washed up body has made world headlines, to promote the plight of refugees. Aylan drowned in early September with his 5-year-old brother and their mother off Turkey as they were trying to make the sea crossing to Greece. There seems to be a massive sense of entitlement that Europe has the responsibility to accommodate the masses flowing from Syria, and the others that are in the mix. The countries that do "look away" are the Islamic brothers and sisters in the oil-rich Arab countries, that do nothing! The reality is that the Kurdi family were safely settled in Turkey, and were not given refugee status by the UN. They were not facing "persecution and terror" and only since has their part of Syria become razed. The mainstream media always predict and highlight the emotions of guilt that we are meant to feel, and never the truth. Aylan’s family, while originally from the Syrian border town of Kobani, recently besieged by IS, had actually been living in safety in Turkey for three years. What exactly was he “fleeing” when he paid a people smuggler thousands of dollars to bring his family — without safety vests — to Greece, to join that irresistible army of illegal immigrants now smashing through Europe’s borders? Abdullah does not have any teeth! Canada allows refugees to settle if they have the sponsorship of at least five Canadian citizens, on the condition that those citizens provide financial and emotional support. Only people who have been formally designated as refugees can apply, and many Syrian Kurds have reported difficulties getting their applications processed in UNHCR camps in Turkey. Turkey will not issue exit visas to refugees if they do not have refugee official status. Aylan’s terrible death does not tell us to open our borders. If anything, it warns us to be wary of the consequences of badly directed “compassion”. If the more the West takes in, the more will try to come, too, searching in rich countries for what they cannot find in poor — and the more will drown in trying, just like Aylan. At the end of World War 2, there were 2.55 billion people on our planet. Now we are heading towards 8 billlion, and each year 80 million more people are added. Any conflict, any disturbance, means that humanity will spill over and there are limited places to accommodate them. The UN refugee Convention was formulated in a different era, for as a response to the one-off episode after the devastation of WW2. Now, expecting Europe to absorb people of contrary beliefs, ideals, languages and cultures is an extreme ask. There's no place for foreign interventions, and manipulation, by the US or the Western allies. Saudi Arabia is one of the arab countries supplying arms to ISIS. Let the oil rich Gulf States and other Muslim countries provide assistance if necessary and not flood the rest of the world with people who will most likely refuse to assimilate, refuse to return to their homeland and be a continuing economic and social burden on the host nations. Western countries, which all along the way have been insisting on Assad’s departure, seem to be modifying their positions vis-à-vis the crisis in Syria. Assad was elected last year by the Syrians, therefore, it is a “very normal and ordinary step” to talk with the elected representative of the people of Syria about their future!

I can understand where you're coming from Will. I, too, was born in Melbourne at St.George's Hospital in Kew almost 66 years ago. Today Melbourne is just another bloated, ugly city as you say overpopulated, overdeveloped and overblown. In the 1950s, 60s and 70s as Kelvin Thompson repeatedly says Melbourne was a vibrant place to be. Its people were amenable, employment aplenty, education and health services were adequate, transport public and private catered for our needs with plenty of sporting, recreational and artistic activities to keep us occupied in our leisure hours. What happened? I once did a piece on the achievements of Sir Henry Bolte, some good some not so good depending on your viewpoint. The boy from Ballarat was a ruthless but shrewd politician and Premier, a true liberal unlike today's conservatives, Bolte understood the needs of both urban and non-urban Victorians. He was able to attract foreign investment for vital infrastructure projects that were vital for Melbourne and Victoria. Henry's infrastructure achievements were many and varied, from dams to freeways, the city loop and grade separations, both the West Gate Bridge and Tullamarine Airport, universities and hospitals, established National Parks and instigated the Soil Conservation Authority and promoted the 0.05 bac and seat belt legislation for motorists. His successor Dicky Hamer picked up on these initiatives, but slowly the initiatives dried up until the early 1990s when the wheels fell off completely as we got Jeffed! The beginning of the neoliberal malaise was the beginning of the end for Melbourne. Neoliberal dogma predicated that economic rationalism must prevail and that everybody and everything must bow down to market forces. This led to schools and hospitals closing, council amalgamations, services discontinued, utilities privatised and rising unemployment. We were advised that the service industries would cater for employment opportunities, what we were not told is that these jobs wouldn't pay as much as our old jobs. Those still in jobs went from central enterprise agreements to having to bargain for individual agreements which caused a drop in morale in the work place as those bargained best got more money that those who couldn't. Jeff got Jeffed when the bastards from the bush, who were treated like second class citizens, said enough was enough. The incoming Labour government were beholden to the same neoliberal ideals as Jeff and as an answer to the decline in manufacturing they promoted population growth as the panacea. Population growth meant jobs for the construction industry while the immigrants could work in the service industries. By this time infrastructure construction had slowed to a walk and most of that built was an after thought. Some of the infrastructure that was constructed was whimsical to say the least none more so than the Desalination Plant at Wonthaggi. The plant, completed in 2012, hasn't produced a drop of water at the astronomical cost of $20 billion!! It's projects like this one that have shanghaied infrastructure development in Melbourne. Talking about putting the cart before the horse! The editorial in last Thursday's Age blamed Victorian governments past and present for not building enough roads and railways for Melbourne's chronic overpopulation problem. This is sheer hypocrisy!! Fairfax Media owner of the Age is a proponent of a Big Australia with interests in the housing industry. Until we can get some vision back into government at both state and federal level Melbourne will remain a second or third rate city.

I view economics as being the study of the ecology of human civilisation. It is the study of how inputs translate to outputs, and the forces which promote or impede this. Therefore, economics is a matter of studying phenomena, rather than determining a good ideology. That is to say, economics isn't something you define then apply, it is a natural phenomenon you discover. Economic ideologies, whether Marxist Socialism, Capitalism, Absolute Free Markets, modern Crony Capitalism, are all deviations from what is REALLY happening. You don't get to decide how the economy works. This is why the USA Fed's money printing program isn't working. Why 'stimulus' just delays the inevitable. You can't fix a broken ecosystem just by injecting energy or nutrients. If the balance, the structure is broken, it will be weak. Period. So I think our economic troubles are related not to whether interest rates are low, or whether property investors get tax breaks, but because our demographic and social ecosystem is broken, which yields poor result. So we ask economists how to fix this. And Lo! Behold! What do economists suggest? Using economics to fix the problem! Well they would say that, wouldn't they? It's self interest to frame the problem as one of economic management and policy, because they'll be the ones given the money and power to fix it. When the GFC occurred, we paid the` people who caused the problem money to fix it. They were they 'money men', and their 'solution', they told us, would get us out of this malaise. So with debt, it is a matter of distribution of resources. Allowing debts to be forgiven leads to an economic black hole, where future earnings will be lost because of the mistakes of the past. It results in a physical manifestation, which can't be undone by changing digits in a computer.

California drought 2015. Walker Lake California runs dry.

Perhaps it is because the world has grown habituated to its unique set of "liquidity" problems, but California's record, and ongoing, drought has not been receiving much media coverage in the rest of the country in recent weeks. Perhaps it should be, because according to a report by CBS Sacramento, the Mountain Meadows reservoir also known as Walker Lake, a popular fishing hole just west of Susanville, ran dry literally overnight, killing thousands of fish and leaving residents looking for answers.

As I understand the workings of a Modern Jubilee Dennis, debt must be repaid or reduced, there is no choice. If you don't have any debt the money from the Jubilee becomes a cash injection into your bank account. The cash injection as I understand it then becomes a stimulus to the economy as the public spend the money on goods and services. Steve Keen also talks about Fractional as opposed Full Reserve Banking and much more in his article. The implication being that a Modern Jubilee would only be one of several strategies that would be needed to be put in place. Also, whether this is relevant or not, are there any restrictions on what you can spend the cash injection on. I may have to re-visit the article to brush up on the fine tuning of its implementation myself.

Letter to Tony Jones re Lateline (25 Sept 2015) interview with Robert Fisk and Indyk

Dear Tony,

I am a spokesperson for AMRIS - . Just before Australia declared de facto war on Syria, AMRIS put out a media release, requesting that we work with the Syrian Army and government to combat ISIS, Jabhat al Nusra and all the other terrorist groups in Syria. Evidently now this means also working with Russia and Iran.

But the government, like the US, is not actually fair dinkum about fighting IS, as pointed out by Robert Fisk, and as you pointed out to Indyk last night. Not only that, the very areas that Bishop said we would be bombing, in the NE of Syria, on the grounds that the Syrian 'regime' was 'unwilling or unable' to stop IS terrorists there, is currently the scene of many battles between IS and the Syrian army, for instance in Hasakah where the SAA is working with the YPG. ( RT's Lizzie Phelan did a good report on this battle from Hasakah, shown on SBS weekly RT report on Monday night).

We appreciate very much that you interviewed Robert Fisk, who has hardly been supportive of Syria or Assad in the past - making his testimony from the front so much more valuable - , and that you for having interviewed Dr Bouthaina Shaaban.

I do however have some questions on why you would think to interview this man Indyk, chief propagandist for Israel and US neo-con policy, who told some unbelievable lies in the most believable fashion. They were not lies that he could possibly believe, given the clear policy of the Brookings on 'remaking the middle east' so recently expressed by Michael O'Hanlon here:

(PDF - 374K, June 2015) by Michael O'Hanlon | Brookings Institute

To understand the extent of America's deception on Syria, this article by Brandon Martinez gives an excellent overview, for instance on the 10,000 fighters trained by the CIA in Jordan over the last two years ( the 'New Syria army is just a farago..), as well as on the actual and underlying intent of the US for regime change in Syria.:

(11/7/15) | Global Research

Martin Indyk's 'view' that Russia and Iran are 'backing a losing horse' is just a sham; the fact is that Russia has the US snookered over Syria, and is doing what any reasonable law-abiding world citizen would do - protecting a democratically elected government from a foreign-backed insurrection. It is unfortunately now Australia that is backing a losing horse, and about time our leaders and media woke up to it.

Our can be viewed on the AMRIS website.

I would much appreciate a response from you by email, at least to acknowledge you have read this.

I also look forward to more interesting interviews with people who can give us the other side of the story - the Syrian side.

many thanks, David.

I did mean in my previous comment that debt incurred due to avarice and greed should be allowed to result in ruin. [1] In allowing this system to punish bad behaviour, such behaviour is selected against. I am not suggesting that a people of a country pay for their leaders' mistakes, or child pay for their parents, but people need to be responsible for their own chosen consumption pattern.

Our monetary system and government maintain a fantasy land, where money is free, and excess debt is OK, even if you can't pay it back. Jubilees encourage fantasy thinking. Consumption is real and can't be undone. If you go into debt, spend it, don't pay back, your consumption cant be undone, so I don't see why others should pay a tax to forgive such behaviour.

On the contrary, we must tighten up on debt. You MUST be able to produce the wealth equivalent to your debt. You MUST have capacity to pay back.

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This should [not - Ed] be allowed to ruin people to correct the economy.

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This should be allowed to ruin people to correct the economy.

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If as part of a jubilee, money is put into an account with the requirement you pay debt, what happens if you dont have debt and are not a creditor, aside from your money in the bank? Would this encourage people to not pay debt? Not demand payment as you will be paid anywhere? wont this make asset bubbles worse because they are the result of debt without strict repayment requirements? It would seem to me, making it easier to not pay back debt makes problems worse. Debt has to be strict. It has to be repaid. Otherwise monetary systems are abused. It is clear that much debt is due to greed and avarice. This should be allowed to ruin people to correct the economy. If someone owes more than they will ever produce, then tough. The jubilee made sort of sense in an era of slavery and ancient monetary principles, but today doesn't make sense.

My understanding of a Modern Jubilee as described by Steve is that fiat money is raised in the same way as it is in Quantitative Easing, but the money would be directed to the bank accounts of the public with the requirement that the first use of the money is to repay debt. Debtors would have debt eliminated or reduced, non-debtors would receive a cash injection, the value of bank assets would remain the same while the distribution would alter with debt-instruments declining in value and cash assets rising, bank income would decline since debt is an income earning asset for a bank while cash reserves aren't, income flows to asset-backed securities would fall since a substantial proportion of the debt backing such securities would be paid and members of the public (individuals and corporations) who owned asset-backed securities would have increased cash holdings out of which they could spend in lieu of the income stream from ABS's &c. By instituting the above we are, basically, applying the 3 rules of Positive Money with some variations. A Modern Jubilee may not be the panacea of our current predicament, but like Positive Money it is a way forward where the public isn't beholden to banks and big business. The hard part as I see it is to convince politicians and governments to pick up on the idea.

If we thought that Tony Jones had learnt something from Bouthaina Shaaban last week, then listen to his interview with Indyk, and weep. Indyk says the Syrian army is failing, and we should let Russia and Iran get on with it because they are backing a losing horse. We can’t cooperate with them against ISIS because they won’t let go of Assad, and he MUST go.. So we really need, after what Petraeus said here two weeks ago, we really need to work with AL Nusra, if they can loosen their links to Al Qaeda, because they are the only effective force to fight DAMASCUS on the ground. That’s what the man said. To be fair to Jones, he played some of Shaaban’s interview first, and he also asked Indyk about what Fisk had said, on why the US didn’t bomb the IS convoys to Palmyra and Ramadi. ( and I think he does really wonder why) Indyk couldn’t really answer this giveaway question, so claimed that really the Syrian army, which Fisk was with and quoted views of , didn’t have a presence in eastern Syria... LIAR! You only have to watch RT news, or read reports on the recent airstrikes on Tadmor, helped by Russian satellite intel, and of course the Brookings knows all about this. I don’t like the fact that these two Zionists and CIA agents have been here, both talking at the Lowy, during the very time when Australia has declared war on Syria with its allies. How can we tell the ABC what they are believing is total rubbish, and dangerous rubbish?

See: “Counterproductive”?: Russia and the Warring in Syria By Gary Leupp "One must ask what the mainstream media never asks. Why is the U.S. been so hostile to the Damascus regime? Surely it’s not due to its horrible human rights record. The U.S. is intimately friendly with Saudi Arabia, which is arguably far worse. (As we speak a young man who, at age 17 in 2012, attended an anti-government demonstration in Qaif province, and arrested for carrying a firearm–a charge never proved–is appealing a sentence that includes his beheading and posthumous public crucifixion. About 100 people are judicially beheaded in Saudi Arabia every year, including for such offenses as homosexuality and witchcraft. In Syria, which has two-thirds the population of Saudi Arabia, there are rarely more than 10 judicial executions.)" Women in Syria were allowed to vote in 1949-1953 but were only granted the vote in Saudi Arabia recently under pressure. There are still roadblocks to voting in Saudi Arabia though, including the fact that women, due to religious custom, aren't even allowed to drive.

Hi, tomorrow in Madrid in front of the Saudi embassy the FOrum contro la guerra imperialista holds a demonstration aginst the criminal war of Saud in Yemen. On october 1 and also in another day, in Rome as No War Network we will protest against the tyrants for the war and also for the death sentence to the young opposant. And in Ryad? This article is very interesting: Hopefully, the end of Saud is near!! Let's work for the Arab Republic (former Saudi Arabia)

As we hit peak debt, it is difficult to increase the money supply by taking on more debt. I do follow Steve's blog from time to time. I am wary of the Positive Money movement, as it seems to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. Issues of high house prices aren't specifically to do with the fact that banks create money out of thin are (someone has to), but due to the more mundane, and well known problems of reckless and risky lending. A bank needs debts repaid in order to be able to issue more loans, and if these debts cannot be repaid, its ability to function is adversely affected. Asset bubbles are largely a social mania. The banks are responding to demand. The problem is perhaps they shouldn't be so accommodative, and that there are tighter regulations when taking loans for hard assets. Also, I think money should be spent on what people desire, rather than what the government decides is necessary. While of course the government needs to spend tax dollars for infrastructure, having the government issue money by selective loans seems to just create the same issue with have with banks, but with the state. In fact, it could be worse as the government would be beholding to voting power. Think Gillards school halls program, to line the pockets of developers and construction workers to build things we may not have needed.

Properly created and used, I'd suggest that money can and does allow for the creation of wealth. It doesn't do it by itself, of course. There needs to be physical resources, labour and organisation as well. If I want to build a new airport, I need money to do so. I might borrow that money (from a bank that will create out of nothing) and spend it on assembling the resources, labour etc to get the airport going. If I'm successful, I'll generate enough return to cover costs, repay my loan with interest and still make a profit. I will be generating wealth and helping others to do so too. If I can't access money, my airport remains an idea. We don't have a problem with too much money in the system currently. Far from it. Too much money results in inflation. Zimbabwe and Weimar Germany were good examples. We have low levels of inflation. We also have the reserve bank keeping official interest rates low in an effort to stimulate economic activity. But that lever's broken, because as Steve Keen seems to be saying, we've reached a point where we are saturated with private debt. Relying on private demand for bank issued, interest bearing debt to stimulate the economy doesn't work any more. QE as delivered by the Obama government was ineffective because it just threw more money at the banks to lend out. The National Credit proposal, which is effectively what Positive Money and the American Monetary Institute are now promoting wouldn't rely on the manipulation of interest rates to stimulate (or dampen) demand. It'd spend more money directly into circulation when the economy needed a kick along - and less if inflation rose unacceptably. Unlike Howard's $800 battler bucks, National Credit would also be spent on things of enduring value, rather than on imported flat screen TV's. The Reserve Bank's role would be to determine how much money to spend into the system, ensuring a proper balance between unemployment and inflation. Bill Mitchell has suggested that government should become an employer of last resort and use money it creates in this way to ensure full employment. This is kind of appealing, but might ultimately divert money to 'make work'projects that don't really need to be done. So if we went back to feudal England with millions of pounds, we'd probably create inflation because the productive capacity of society at the time was constrained by a lack of technology. Almost everyone worked hard all the time, but by comparison to today they weren't productive. Today we have large numbers of people unemployed or under-employed. They are, by comparison, highly educated and can use technology in ways that make them productive. Spending on useful projects as opposed to lending for propery speculation would engage the productive capacity of these people like never before. .

The Swedish JAK example sounds interesting. I agree partly with Keen, central bank issuing of money isn't the problem in and of itself, where it goes matters. If that money funds individual enterprise, good. Real estate bubbles, not so. National Credit I think suffers from the same problem our current system has, namely the assumption that money generates wealth. The QE experiment has shown rather conclusively that making money doesn't create resources. You can print money, and then expect capital to be automagically created. When that capital is not created, you get price bubbles, which are deflating now. You can make infinite money, but resources are finite. So'what is there to buy? What is the point of all this money, if there is little to buy? The question isn't money. It's production. You can't increase production by printing or issuing money. Money isn't magic whose mere existence creates factories, oil and ideas. The central banks act as if it is. They create money for "stimulus" but the problem isn't there is no money, it is the potential of people to contribute to civilisation, which is based on the structure and demographics. As the west is adopting a third world social structure and demographic, its economy moves to third world status (slowly, but surely). This reduces demand for goods, which impacts China, which impacts us. We print money hoping to turn the tide, but aside from inflated equities and homes, nothing happens. It just makes it worse as it entrenches a regressive debt slave based system. But economists focus on money, so miss the point. If you went to fuedal England, and printed millions of pounds, what would happen? What would you get? Not much, as feudal lords keep serfs unproductive for control. If you did in the remote parts of Africa, what would you get? Our economic woes are demographic and social, not monetary. Monetary policy makes things WORSE, but a fix in policy won't see the halcyon days return.

The recurring instability of political leadership in Australia has raised the spectre the country may be heading down the same path as Europe, according to a political historian from the University of Western Sydney. Dr David Burchell, from the UWS School of Humanities and Communication Arts, says the continuing uncertainty surrounding the Federal Liberal Party leadership, on the back of recent election results and leadership ballots across state governments, is cause for concern. "As a consequence, Western liberal democracy is starting to look moribund and even dysfunctional, summoning visions of the 1920s and 1930s", he says.

The Migration Council sees only growth, apparently ignoring the capacity of Australia to support more people. Besides more growth, the Council sees accelerated growth as the solution to a future flatlining of the Australian economy. By 2055, the Migration Council sees the Australian population at 40 million. Even at 22 million today, we are already killing koalas at an unprecedented rate because we are squeezing them out of their shrinking habitat.

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There are many lobby and business groups with self-interests on their agendas, pushing for "growth". Countries with a faster rate of population growth than Australia invariably have poorer living standards and political instability. Countries with a larger population invariably have poorer environments and quality of living for their residents.

No doubt migrants are attracted to Australia for the promise of political stability, but with toppling demands of the growth pyramid, and all the disturbances of high population growth, the shine may wear thin, and then we'll be forced to pay more taxes, and less welfare, to support the unsustainable growth!

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[1] Article is undated as of 23/9/15. - Ed

From Kurdistan press: PYD: Syrian refugee tripped by Hungarian journalist was member of radical al-Nusra Front By Osamah Golpy yesterday at 02:51 (Picture) Syrian refugee Osama Abdul Mohsen (Left), speaking to journalists in Madrid. Photo: AFP LONDON—The Syrian refugee who was tripped by a Hungarian camerawoman earlier this month was a member of the radical al-Nusra Front and fought the Kurds on many fronts in Syria, the Democratic Union Party (PYD) said Saturday. The video footage of Osama Abdul Mohsen being kicked by a camerawoman on the Hungary-Serbia border went viral and prompted uproar around the world. Abdul Mohsen later landed in Spain where he was offered a job and welcomed by Real Madrid football club including famous footballer Cristiano Ronaldo. However, the Kurdish group PYD alleged in its official media that Abdul Mohsen had fought alongside the Nusra Front before leaving Syria with his family in the spring of 2015. Furthermore, the PYD claimed that Abdul Mohsen was involved in the violent suppression of Kurdish riots in the city of Qamishlo in 2004 following a football match were more than 50 Kurds were killed by the Syrian security forces. Abdul Mohsen was the coach of al-Fatwa club in Deir Ez Zor from 2004-2010. The PYD said that he was an instigator behind the violence after the football match between al-Fatwa and Qamishlo’s Jihad club. The PYD published a picture of Abdul Mohsen from his Facebook page before closing it down earlier this year where he identifies himself as a member of the Nusra Front, adding that he had fought the Kurd

Thanks for the reference, John. I had a quick look at the website and would like to spend a bit more time trying to digest it all. It's certainly interesting and there are some concepts presented there that I would agree with. I couldn't get the graphs to display properly so some of the ideas might be clearer when I work out how to do that.. The criticism of neo-classical economics is encouraging, though I'm not familiar with the work of Minsky - on which much of Keen's ideas are apparently based. The fundamental idea that debt deleveraging can cause recessions / depressions sounds logical, and not something that you'd hear from mainstream economists. I like the idea of the debt jubilee, which looks like a sensible way of reducing the levels of private debt which will certainly be constraining demand at present. Keen also deals with fractional reserve banking and notes the good work being done by Positive Money in the UK. However, he says that he's not convinced that the ability of private banks to create money is, of itself, a 'causa causans' of crises, but rather it's the way that money in this way is used. This is worth thinking about. I wonder whether it's practically possible to separate the two? Keen suggests that over-investment in real estate could be addressed by imposing limits on lending based on the rental potential of the property. Perhaps this would work, but it seems like an attempt to treat symptoms rather than curing the disease. What do you think? Also, the debt jubilee sounds like a great idea but if it just allowed banks to start pushing newly created money as interest bearing debt again, wouldn't that just be giving the current system another opportunity to start the cycle all over again? Back in the 1980's, Allan R Jones identified that the creation of money and the use to which it's put are closely related and this underpinned his National Credit idea, which preceded the work being done by Positive Money and the American Monetary Institute by twenty years. I think that in the future, he will be recognised as an economic visionary. Keen's ideas are obviously well thought out and I'm looking forward to working through his ideas a bit more. Thanks again for the reference.

Hmmm...I don't think you've actually read this paper. Nowhere does it call for the ongoing removal of dingoes. It suggests that devils could be reintroduced into the vast regions, particularly east of the Great Dividing Range, where dingoes are no longer extant. You linking advocacy of upscaling of 1080 poison use and a devil reintroduction is a kooky conspiracy theory and really I know of no environment organisation or agency that views 1080 as a magic bullet in the long term...i.e. nobody wants to keep using 1080 in the long run - it's expensive to deploy. Relax mate.

You're making sense there nineofclubs. Steve Keen has also studied the topic of money creation by banks, Ponzi schemes and the like and among other things suggests that modern jubilees and full reserve banking maybe the way forward in the future. This is not to suggest that your suggestions are unworkable, but we need a way forward that is workable for everybody. Steve's article can be read at Let me know what you think.

Where an individual has earned and saved some money and seeks to lend it to someone else, I agree that it is their right to charge interest on the loan, if they wish. But in modern society, how often does that happen? Virtually never. The vast majority of money loaned out is created by private banks, out of nothing as a book keeping exercise. This is why you don't actually have to wait at all to get your invested money back from the bank. 'Your' money was there all along. With money created under the fractional reserve system, there is no moral justification for charging anything other than a fee for service to cover the cost of setting up and administering the loan. The interest charged by banks on 97% of the money they loan out is completely unjustified. The fact that interest acts to take money away from borrowers and give it to banks who created it out of nothing is a problem, make no mistake. Separately, there are different problems with the creation of money as debt. The problems include (1) that those creating national currency - a public asset - are privately owned corporations who then lend it at interest to governments, and (2) that money created like this is directed into the economy on the basis of how profitable and/or safe a loan will be, rather than anything to do with the National Interest. The fractional reserve system facilitates these problems. Money reformer Allan R Jones proposed a system for creating money that he called National Credit, which was similar to Social Credit but instead of just giving people cash, would spend the money into circulation on projects of national importance. This money would not be a loan, but would be put into the economy without any expectation of repayment. Only the Reserve Bank would be authorised to create money. Private banks would have to operate as most people imagine they do now, on full reserves. This was a significant improvement on Social Credit, in my opinion. So under such a system, people who saved money could store it in a bank and loan it out at interest if they wanted. While it was loaned out, it would become unavailable for withdrawal by the depositor. It's commonly imagined that this would result in higher rates of interest, because banks would have to compete for deposits and the depositors cash really would become unavailable for a time. But the example of the Swedish JAK Bank shows this is not necessarily the case. Your average Australian will pay far more in interest charges over their life than they will ever earn on their savings. Same in Sweden, presumably. So JAK bank allows borrowers to take loans interest free, on the condition that they repay their loan and then contribute (as 'aftersavings') to a pool funding other peoples loans for a period. These aftersavings do not attract interest. For most, this is a good deal. You get to borrow money interest free. You pay back your loan then have to save money into a pool that gets loaned to others interest free. At the end of the contract, you get your aftersavings back, without interest. Throughout the loan period, you pay a flat monthly charge which covers the bank's costs. Best of all, this system does not rely on fractional reserve banking to operate. In a system where fractional reserve banking was outlawed, this kind of system would flourish because it would offer a way for people to borrow for major expenses, without the usurious wealth transfer associated with interest that underpins our money system today. .

What the Turkish president was effectively doing was funding IS with one hand, while absorbing and supporting the refugees fleeing from it with the other. Erdogan believed that the larger the number of displaced Syrians, the better his chances of convincing the international community of the need to enforce a no-fly zone across northern Syria, where the refugees could ostensibly be settled. To ensure that this would become the preferred solution, the Turkish authorities made it difficult for refugees, now numbering close to 2 million, to leave for third countries. As their numbers in Turkey reached a ," NATO member stateswould be more likely to act, Erdogan had hoped. #000000">The body of #000000">, 3, washed up on the shore of Bodrum, Turkey, in early September after the boat he was in with his parents capsized en route to Europe. His aunt has said that the family took the deadly journey because the #000000">United Nations had refused to grant them #000000">, and Turkish authorities had refused to grant them #0000ff">exit visas.

Independent federal MP Andrew Wilkie said this was "a very reckless and a very dangerous decision". "For a start, it is illegal for Australia to bomb in Syria," he said. "There is no UN imprimatur for Australia to bomb in the sovereign state of Syria. It's as simple as that". (18/9/15) | ABC News "Australians for Reconciliation in Syria" (AMRIS) spokesperson David Macilwain said that AMRIS unequivocally condemns atrocities committed by 'Islamic State' in Syria. AMRIS deplores the decision by the Australian Government to follow the lead of the United States in taking military action against IS within the borders of Syria, one of the founding members of the United Nations, without the consent of the Syrian Government. Every time we become involved in a conflict that really has nothing to do with us, we get a flood of "refugees" in hired boats from the countries we are 'helping'? It started with Vietnam, and it has continued since. The current cessation in arrivals will last only as long as the Coalition government does. When Labor gets back in, the invasion of refugees will start again. The legal justification for bombing raids without the consent of Syria’s government is dubious. The laws of war, under the United Nations Charter, restrict the international use of force by all countries to just two narrow circumstances: self-defence against an armed attack, and when asked for or authorised by the Security Council. Unless a country is under armed attack, the Security Council, and only the Security Council, has the lawful authority to permit the use of military force against another country. The UN are more interested in spreading the problem of displaced people in Europe and the West and ignore the illegal wars and interventions causing mass human displacements, and "solve" the problem by opening the floodgates to reckless mass invasions.

Interest is justified when one person makes a loan to another. If I'm a depositor, and the bank loans my money to you, then you pay interest and I earn it. This is because I am forgoing use of my money now, so you can use it now. As money is more valuable now than later, interest is paid. Interest is you paying me to defer my spending so you can bring yours forward. You get the car I could have bought earlier and enjoy it longer. In this respect, low to zero interst rates are a problem because you are spending my money now, I have to wait, but there is no compensation. So why save? The problem is when interest is charged on money which wasnt earned by somone. If a bank creates money out of thin air, and lends it, with interest, then who is deferring turning thier works into goods and services? No one. So why pay interest? Here lies the problem, that so much money is created as debt, with interest. Even without interest, it is a problem. Rather than produce first, we get our payments up front and enter debt bondage as a result. Pushing more money increases debt, increases bondage. The money to fund housing bubbles is manufactured, its not a result of Australians having billions saved up.

And other costs? Logically there should be huge taxes on weapons manufacturers, sales and onsales. The countries who were most vocal in advocating intervention in this region should pay, not only to support refugees, but money to the local people to rebuild. Obviously the United States, the EU, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey. Israel should be in there somewhere too. Who have I missed?

Here's the fix: Meanwhile, the EU has presented Turkey with a proposal of 1 billion euros in aid for the expenses incurred by the 2 million refugees. EU Commissioner for European Neighborhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations Johannes Hahn said in a press conference on Thursday that the commission wants to help Turkey with the expenses of caring for the nearly 2 million refugees it currently hosts. In order to receive the aid, Turkey will be required to comply with guidelines set forth by the EC, including the profiling of all refugees that enter the country for easy identification, should they ever face deportation by European Union officials

In early September there were articles in the Guardian and the Huffington Post on UN funds for refugees running out. "UN agencies 'broke and failing' in face of ever-growing refugee crisis: Damage will be impossible to reverse, warns head of UNHCR, after 10% fall in funding forces cuts to food rations and closure of clinics. ..This year the World Food Programme cut rations to 1.6 million Syrian refugees. The most vulnerable living in Lebanon now only have $13 to spend on food each month, a figure that the WFP warned would leave refugees vulnerable to recruitment by extremist groups." (Guardian ) "UN Text Messages Over 200,000 Syrian Refugees: Food Aid To Be Cut Off. How You Can Help “We have been forced to make some very difficult decisions." More than 200,000 Syrian refugees living in Jordan learned via text message that the U.N. food aid they rely on to survive is getting completely cut. The World Food Program has been warning since as early as last summer that a funding crisis has stretched the organization thin, and has caused the group to cut back on resources it can offer Syrian refugees in Jordan. But refugees say the latest announcement caught them completely off guard. “What shall I do? Sell myself or sell my three girls?” Om Rabab, a refugee who goes by a pseudonym for security reasons, told BuzzFeed. Earlier this month, 229,000 refugees who live in urban communities in Jordan, were notified that they would lose out entirely on their food vouchers. They had been receiving $14 per month, and now they will not receive any assistance from WFP, Julie Marshall, Canadian spokesperson for WFP, told The Huffington Post......" (Huffington Post: ) Here's the fix: Meanwhile, the EU has presented Turkey with a proposal of 1 billion euros in aid for the expenses incurred by the 2 million refugees. EU Commissioner for European Neighborhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations Johannes Hahn said in a press conference on Thursday that the commission wants to help Turkey with the expenses of caring for the nearly 2 million refugees it currently hosts. In order to receive the aid, Turkey will be required to comply with guidelines set forth by the EC, including the profiling of all refugees that enter the country for easy identification, should they ever face deportation by European Union officials

A thought-provoking article, Anon. Interest acts to transfer money from those who have little (the poor) to those who have lots (banks and the wealthy). It's like income tax in reverse. Robin Hood in the bizarro world. But unlike income taxes, interest cannot be avoided. Not true, nineofclubs, you say! If you don't borrow money or use credit cards, you don't pay interest. This seems to make sense, but is actually very wrong. American money writer Ellen Brown has documented how hidden interest costs are built into the cost of everything we buy. She calculated that in Germany, interest costs represented a staggering 30% of all the money spent in the economy. The figure in Australia is likely to be somewhat less now, given the lower rates of interest prevailing now compared to the late 90's when Brown's study was conducted. However, the proportion is still likely to be significant. Libertarians are continually whining about the evils of taxation, because it represents 'an unjustified transfer of wealth'. It's high time that we started looking at interest in the same light, particularly where it's charged on money that has been created by book-keeping, rather than earned through effort. .

This seems to fit in with the idea that some people are deliberately waging a demographic war, and using worldwide movement of people to target specific peoples. This seems to make sense, but I'll reserve drawing conclusion, because if this is true, it would mean politically speaking, that the resolution is to literally throw the elite of these nations who orchestrate these into the docks. This is quite a severe accusation. The Syrian crisis has been going for years. It is simply untrue that it has suddenly come about, but this is the picture the media is painting. An 'urgent' crisis. The boy who was photographed drowned was living in Turkey for years. People have been fleeing conflict in Syria for months, years now. But now, all of a sudden, there is an influx of people, media attention, governments and media personnel beating the drums of war.

Austria is bracing for an influx of 10,000 refugees as Europe's increasingly divided countries step up efforts to push the wave of desperate humanity on to their neighbours. Truly amazing to read about the inflated sense of entitlement held by these people, many of whom have probably badmouthed the West for most of their lives! The UN Refugee Convention, no doubt has given an assumed entitlement to access open borders of Europe, and become "refugees". It turns out that only 21% of these so called migrants are Syrian, so 60 to roughly 80% are not even syrian,these are migrants from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Cameroun, Nigeria, Somalia ie the 3rd world. They are using the media coverage, and the chaos, to join in the mayhem. None of the Arab states has offered to take in their Muslim brothers and sisters- neither Saudi Arabia or the UAE/Dubai, Abu Dhabi etc. has offered to take in these refugees. They are some of the wealthiest nations in the world, but do offer to fund the building of Mosques in Germany!

A million Yemeni tribal fighters are gathering near the border with Saudi Arabia in preparation to invade the Kingdom, Iran’s Kayhan newspaper has reported. - See more at: If you have to scramble for a map to see where Yemen is, blame your news sources. Yemen is a slice of land between Saudi Arabia and the Gulf of Aden, with a corner on the Red Sea. Recently Saudi Arabia began aerial bombardments, up to 200 daily, claiming to be suppressing a rebellion with the aim of returning an unpopular president to power. Saudi Arabia has the backing of the United States and is Australia's ally.

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J-D,

If what you say about President John F. Kennedy is true, then clearly I am wrong to liken Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, to JFK, however ...

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[JFK] increased US military involvement in Vietnam [and] offered covert assistance to the 1963 coup against the Vietnamese government.

General Vo Nguyen Giap (1911 - 2013) who led the Vietnamese armies to victory over the French at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 and to victory over the United States in 1975 after he was re-elected. However, as we know, JFK was murdered on 22 November 1963, after which his successor, LBJ escalated the war against Vietnam and several millions more Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians died.

These were amongst the reasons for which the Military Industrial Complex killed JFK - or do you think that he was killed by a lone solitary gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald?

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As I have acknowledged, of which I am aware, since March 2001, that is, when Rupert Murdoch's Australian reported about Mother Agnes Mariam, we learnt from that MSM outlet some of the truth about Syria. On every other occasion, the MSM has misinformed its readers, viewers and listening audience, about the Syrian conflict. In the court of reasoned public debate and not the 'law court' in which you would prefer the case to be heard, my case would win hands down.

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A critical point, missed by -262981">J-D, is that, until Dr Bouthaina Shaaban last night, I know of not one instance" id="txt18aug1"> 1  where a single representative of the Syrian government, or, indeed, anyone prepared to argue its case, for example (AMRIS), was ever given a chance to do so on Australia's mainstream media outlets, since the war began four and a half year ago in March 2011. If J-D, or anyone else, knows of one instance, then please let us know.

For anyone who is knowledgeable about the conflict in Syria, the reason is obvious. Nearly every 'report' about Syria in our MSM was a fabrication and would have been quickly shown up as such by groups such as AMRIS or any representative of the Syrian government. The whole tissue of lies created by the ABC, SBS, the Fairfax media, NineMSN, etc. - that Bashar al-Assad was a corrupt and hated mass murderer, had used chemical weapons against his people, had dropped 'barrel bombs' on schools, hospitals, etc. - would have been torn to shreds had any one of those claims been put to AMRIS, or any representative of the Syrian government, as it was on Lateline last night.

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Dennis, I share your pessimism. Under current conditions, Australian culture as a distinct and unique thing is certainly threatened. But outside of the major metro areas, you'll find that it's still kicking along - albeit with some obvious influences introduced via TV. Personally I don't mind the melting pot idea, but like an actual melting pot it doesn't work when it's overloaded with too much ingredient, or incompatible ingredients. Your point about the term multiculturalism being a cover is probably right. While it IS about encouraging a multiplicity of ethnic cultures in Australia, it is misleading in implying that ethnic cultures are the only kind of culture that matters. At the same time, it has also been used as a politically correct euphemism for ongoing mass immigration and the ethno-suburbs that have emerged as a result. .

Well said, Katie. Your clothing example is relevant to the way that climate and environment shape culture, and there are other good examples as well. Soon after Federation - and riding on a heightened sense of national awareness that came with it - the architecture of houses being built in Australia started to change. The Federation style of architecture was a response to bigger suburban blocks being developed, but it also included verandahs to provide shade in the summer and bigger windows for natural light than had been common in earlier Victorian and Georgian buildings. The detailing often included lead light or other detailing that included images of waratahs or native animals. In the tropical north, Federation houses were elevated on piers or poles to create the classic Queenslander style that's still recognisable as uniquely Australian today. Today, however, the pressure to accommodate a rapidly growing population means that the sensible environmental considerations that motivated our great-grandparents have been ditched. Many newly developed subdivisions are chock-a-block with two story town houses, made from poorly insulated brick veneer, topped with black tile roofs and no eaves. Not surprisingly, a powerful air conditioner is a must. Our architecture has become increasingly bland, international and inappropriate. The idea that Australian cultural development should revolve around, or be driven by immigration is nonsense. If you're interested, I'd recommend reading an essay written in the 1930s by PR 'Inky' Stephenson called 'The Foundations of National Culture In Australia.' This attacks the idea that Australian culture is just British culture transplanted here. You can find it on the web. Another excellent, but longer, work is 'The Australian Legend' by Russel Ward. This traces the origins of many cultural traits that are recognised today as being 'typically' Australian and talks about how social and environmental conditions shaped these traits. .

I find that if you replace 'culture' with 'ethnicity' or 'race', then terms like Mulitculturalism make far more sense. It clears up the contradictions and oddities that one notes. I think that is the whole point of it. Same with "diverse background", this is indirect language for something else. You are right about Australia having different subcultures. The same is true in the USA, where one could rightly consider the south almost another nation as compared to the north. New York is quite different to California. The people even look different. Although I come from what would euphemistically be called a "migrant background", I always found it puzzling when Australia insisted it had no culture or identity. These things take time to develop, and there was clearly one being built, but there seemed to be a sense of inferiority, which I think continues to this day, and exhibited by Australia's need to have the biggest cities ,the tallest building, the most people, etc.. The idea was that people would adopt, or share in 'my background', but how this would actually work was never explained. It was even more puzzling, because Australian history interested me, in particular the explorers of Australias interior. But as Australian culture is now an all inclusive melting pot, nothing specific, I can't see what new migrants would assimilate into. You can't blame your Middle Eastern immigrant for not assimilating into a culture which is just a mish mash of peoples and ethnicities. What are you assimilating into? Hence why I'm pessimistic about this all working.

-262944">Julie Thomas, what J-D calls -262929">"jumping through hoops" is no more than what I would have thought that anyone, who is not already properly informed about the conflict in Syria, and wants to become properly informed, would do.

It has been argued (here or elsewhere) that, because the were from media sources, including RT, already sympathetic to President al-Assad, the questions put were not too probing. I, nevertheless, thought that the questions were good and that the answers helped shed more light on the Syrian conflict.

However on other occasions, President al-Assad has faced lengthy interviews from other interviewers clearly hostile to him, and (9/2/15) (see embedded video below). On both occasions, he has acquitted himself well. I have never seen President Obama, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton, Francois Hollande, David Cameron or Tony Abbott face anything like a similar amount of public scrutiny. If they had, they would have been cut to ribbons.

THE owners of an Otways wildlife shelter have left a rescued joey at government office in protest over a kangaroo cull permit at their neighbour’s property. “Desperate times call for desperate measures and this is proving to be so hard on all of us,” said Ron Anstie, who runs the Carlisle River Wildlife Sanctuary with wife Carola. #e7e7e4 1px solid;BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid;PADDING-BOTTOM:7px;PADDING-TOP:7px;PADDING-LEFT:7px;MARGIN:0px;BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid;LINE-HEIGHT:18px;PADDING-RIGHT:7px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:">#666666">Carola Anstie with Angel the joey. Source: Supplied They left eight-month-old Angel at the Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning offices in Colac on Tuesday. “There are a lot of wildlife shelters around Victoria in a position like we are and we just want change,” he said In August, the Geelong Advertiser told how the ">Ansties had decided to stop rescuing and rehabilitating joeys and injured eastern grey kangaroos because their neighbour had been given permission to legally cull 60 roos. They said some of the kangaroos that could be culled would most likely have been released from the shelter after being handraised over two years. The couple, with 23 years of experience in wildlife care, is calling for state government change that would see exclusion zones around wildlife shelters to prevent the allocation of culling permits. They’re also calling for properties neighbouring cull permit applications to be notified of the application and given the opportunity to appeal if necessary. Mr Anstie said there was no criticism of his neighbour or staff at the department, as both were acting well within the law. “They were entitled to issue the permit and he was entitled to apply for it, that’s not the problem. We need to change the rules,” he said. “There are no safe places to release these kangaroos.” The department’s Barwon South West Region operations director Hamish Webb said the department would “work closely with the sanctuary owners to identify safe areas for the rescued kangaroos to be moved to.” “The aim of the (cull permit) system is to strike a balance between the conservation of native wildlife and the protection of private property rights and livelihood,” Mr Webb said. “To comply with its licence, the Carlisle River Sanctuary must identify appropriate sites for the release of rehabilitated animals.”

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Just briefly for now: The Guardian article by is .

The other article, which includes the 40 minute video of the interview of President Bashar al-Assad played earlier on , is . It includes the full transcript off the interview.

That is such an important point you make, nineofclubs regarding e.g. surfer culture and cultures in aspects of life in Australia. I think it is amazing how distinctive are the traits of what could be encompassed in an Australian culture in such a short time, let's say a hundred years or even less. I am very conscious of the myth that is perpetuated that Australia does not have a culture of its own but only derives from the mother countries of settlers and immigrants. It's as though there are no environmental factors in the evolution of "culture" and that it is just a hand me down sort of thing, devoid of geographical context. Yet it is clear, that culture derives from environment because many aspects of culture are practical e.g clothing adapted to climate, food from local resources, preserved as necessary for leaner times and many others which are not so utterly obvious. And there are more recent migrant cultures, complete with their own distinctive ways of speaking Australian English that have developed all within a generation. (Remember "Wogs out of work"?) I do not mean transplanted cultures but ones that grew up in Australia. We do not need social engineering and special institutions to bolster multi-culturalism. All we need is a "fair go".

"Europe is "not dealing with the cause" of the current refugee crisis, Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview with Russian media." Abbott's success at "stop the boats" means that while the boats may not arrive any more, the problem may not necessarily be addressed. There's a scramble to find new countries to settle the flood of people leaving Syria, but there's little to nothing being done to address the cause! Arab nations urge UN to enact peacekeeping mission, find rapid political soltution to curb refugee flow, but what about Europe and the US? The Organization of Islamic Cooperation called on the United Nations to consider a peacekeeping force for war-ravaged Syria to help curb the surge of refugees which is destabilizing the region and beyond. The Muslim world, blamed the humanitarian crisis on “the war crimes committed by the regime in Syria.” Gulf Arab states have been among the most ardent opponents of Assad, providing funds and weapons for rebel groups fighting him. Middle East experts say the narrow focus on IS is a mistake, and that efforts should concentrate on dealing with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad after a four-year civil war that has turned cities to rubble and left 240,000 dead. Jeremy Salt – an Australian who is professor of politics at Bilkent University in Ankara, in neighbouring Turkey - says that Australia and the US must resolve a fundamental contradiction in our policy on the Syrian War: On the one hand, we oppose Islamic State but on the other, we are equally determined to overthrow Islamic State's arch enemy, the government of Bashar al-Assad, which still rules more than half the country including the capital Damascus. Salt thinks this refusal to work with our enemy's enemy is crazy. "I don't see where America's national interest lies in destroying the government of Syria." What could be America's aim in destroying Syria, except access to resources and power? The US and Australia turned against the Assad government in 2011 during the Arab Spring when Western public opinion recoiled at the tactics the authoritarian "regime" used to suppress opposition, especially "barrel bombing" by Soviet-supplied jets of densely populated cities. Salt claims that the Assad "regime" is still the best option for peace because it broadly tolerates Syria's myriad of minorities: Kurdish, Shiite, Alawite, Christian and less extreme Sunni Muslims. These (some extreme) minorities are obviously not easy to accommodate, and keep united, except for a tough secular leader. Assad has the backing from Vladimir Putin's Russia, and Iran and its Hezbollah proxies in Lebanon. The West should involve Syria's President Bashar al-Assad and his allies Iran and Russia in order to combat Islamic State, Austria's foreign minister Sebastian Kurz said on Tuesday.

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Those who sat through ABC's on Monday night and its circuitous and incoherent 'discussion' about current geopolitics including Syria – "the Assad 'regime' has killed seven times as many Syrians as ISIS", disproven allegations that the Syrian government had used chemical weapons presented as fact, etc., etc. ad nauseum – will be pleasantly surprised to hear heroic Australian Julian Assange speak about his new book 'the WikiLeaks Files' – I have bought the last copy from my local bookstore – and his insight into geopolitical issues including Syria, in which perhaps as many as 250,000 Syrians have died as a result of the terrorist invasion since March 2011.

The Australian government, previously complicit in the invasion of Libya and a direct participant in past illegal wars against Iraq and Afghanistan, has also colluded in the terrorist war against Syria. On Tuesday 29 May 2013, Foreign Minister and increased sanctions against Syria. Bob Carr's pretext was the claim that the Syrian government had murdered 108 of its own citizens at on 25 May 2014. Bob Carr never asked the Syrian Ambassador for his own government's account of the massacre. Evidence has since emerged that . The Houla massacre, like almost countless other massacres of civilians was perpetrated, before and since, by the terrorist opposition to the Syrian Government.

Afshin Rattansi goes underground ... (see above)

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Thanks for the response Dennis. I think we probably would agree on a number of things. Firstly, I concur with your view that multiculturalism is a corrosive ideology. Modern Australia has always been home to a rich variety of cultures. However, since the 1970's 'multiculturalism' has referred, narrowly and specifically, to national cultures. It does not recognise that the attitudes and enthusiasms common to surfers on the NSW North Coast differs quite a bit from the culture of farmers on the Darling Downs, or from the trendsetters of the inner city. However, prior to multiculturalism, the one thing that these groups had in common was a single national culture. They were Australian. They had a shared national history, a shared language and they shared a landmass. They also, largely, shared some attitudes that were defined as being 'typically Australian'. Things like mateship, a suspicion of authority, a commitment to a fair go. Sure, there were people who didn't subscribe to these values. They weren't enforced. It was just that most people who had grown up here absorbed them from the wider community. Multiculturalists continually denigrate Australian culture, often denying that such a thing exists at all. In their view, Australia pre-1970's was a boring place of cultural homogeneity. But this argument can only be sustained at all if you view 'culture' as a synonym for ethnic / national origin. In every other respect, Australia was home to a wide variety of 'culture' from very early on. I support a policy that would encourage the further development of a single Australian national culture in Australia. By this, I don't mean banning ethnic celebrations and such. But likewise, I don't believe that official policy should encourage or fund such things. The policy of the State should support the Nation that it is created to serve, not others. Secondly, I agree that Australian society is currently fractured along ethnic lines and that this division is getting worse. Conditions of mass immigration and multiculturalism quickly turn a melting pot into a salad bowl. Multiculturalists prefer the salad bowl anyway and find the concept of assimilation, as championed by Arthur Calwell, offensive on principle. Under these conditions, it's no surprise that the people on many Australian streets don't share a language, let alone any common attitudes or history - let alone heritage. With that said, I don't believe that national culture is necessarily about enforced attitudes. It can be as simple as shared history, language, way of living, space. It should, ideally, also help people to live comfortably and sustainably in their environment. Left to evolve organically it would adapt the best (most appropriate) ideas and ways of life and gradually drop those that are less suitable. Under current conditions, I cannot see this happening.

Last year President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela warned against the acts of “the imperialist powers” to disrupt stability in Syria and the countries of the Middle East region. The Venezuelan President referred to an article written by former Cuban President Fidel Castro in which the latter cautioned against the U.S.-Western attempts to destabilize the entire region by means of employing Takfiri terrorist organizations.

This month, Cuba and Syria both reaffirmed their commitment to continue strengthening the bilateral solidarity, friendship and cooperation ties that were established 50 years ago by Cuban Revolution leader Fidel Castro and then Syrian President Hafiz al-Assad.

Syrian and Cuban peoples' ties have historical and joint fight roots, and that is why Syria was one of the first nations to recognize the Cuban Revolution and establish diplomatic relations with the Caribbean country.

A pattern of dislocation has been rising steadily since the wars of regime change in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Libya and Nigeria from 2001 until the present. When the U.S. and its NATO allies went to war against the Taliban government in Afghanistan they claimed that it was designed to end “terrorism” and ensure stability in Central Asia. CIA officers, based in Turkey, were not to supply arms ("the Obama administration has said it is not providing arms to the rebels"), but rather to “help” those supplying arms “decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms.” The supply of arms to Syrian rebels by the US and Saudi Arabia is a well-established fact.

Islamic fundamentalists represent the greatest danger to those modernising secular governments in the Islamic world that want to pursue an independent course of economic development. The US’s policies frequently lead to Islamic fundamentalists prospering as the most powerful and well-organised political movements.

So far this year, nearly 400,000 migrants, many of them refugees, have crossed the Mediterranean, with many more expected. The CIA spent US$1 billion ($1.4 billion) to fund early efforts to unseat Assad. Others have argued that no one could have foreseen the magnitude of the war in Syria.

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Rather than a "refugee crisis", it's now a "migration crisis". The doors to Europe have been flung opened, and the flood of migration has been let lose. It's assumed that the war in Syria, and displacement, is somehow inevitable, and the UN keep dissolving national borders and sovereignties instead of actually preventing interventions, and the mitigating factors causing refugees.

Safety Beach on the Mornington Peninsular near Mt Martha used to be an unassuming low key but picturesque settlement with a shallow swimming beach. Today, revisiting this place after many years I was dismayed at the transformation into a hideous collection of monstrous ,oversized junk, imitation modernist housing all in a row dwarfing the landscape and towering over the pretty beach opposite. All vestige of the bush, once characteristic of the area had been eradicated. The new eyesore is heralded as you enter its precincts by an utterly prosaic underpass which has been built to allow traffic to cross the artificial canal around which cluster more ostentatious overblown housing. The aesthetic and ambience reminded me of an area of Jakarta where land has been reclaimed and almost exclusively, Chinese residents have filled this space with jaw dropping, over -the -top domestic constructions.

In the above interview the retired General Peter Gration has shown a sense of proportion almost totally lacking in the coverage by the mainstream newsmedia:

DAVID MARK: The Government might take issue with you about that issue of whether the IS poses any direct threat to Australia; they might argue that it does.

PETER GRATION: Yeah, I'm aware of that. What I think they're talking about is that IS will urge Muslims in Australia to carry out more terrorist acts, but the scale and the likely outcome of that is minute compared to the effort that we are contemplating putting into Syria.

Even much of the anti-war alternative newsmedia is barking up the wrong tree when it warns of 'blowback' by Muslims in our midst supposedly as a result of their grievance at wars that have been waged against their own countries.

At the very worst such terrorist acts in Australia would still only cause the deaths of a tiny fraction of those many hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen and Somalia since 1990. Terrorist actions that have already occurred in Australia, whether or not they were staged with the help of intelligence agencies as appears to be the case with the Martin Place massacre, have only harmed the anti-war movement.

Whilst a small number of ordinary Australians could fall victim to an increase of terrorism, members of Australia's elite are very unlikely to find themselves in harm's way. Furthermore, they can be expected to use terrorism as an excuse to attack our civil liberties and to conduct more wars against the countries on whose behalf the terrorists are supposedly acting.

I remember the last night in Gaza in 2012 after the "false" ceasefire, that night Israel threw everything at Gaza or so it seemed. I remember the CBC guy coming back to Al Quds hotel, visibly shaking..and I will remember his words to this day: "I am a seasoned war correspondent but these guys [Israel] are psychopathic, I have never seen anything like this". Cigarette lit in trembling hands he went on to describe a small jet the like of which he had never seen before that could fly at tremendous speed even through very narrow streets..and the fact that his clearly marked TV Press vehicle had been chased down many streets by an Apache helicopter which finally fired a missile, narrowly missing his car and destroying a civilian house. He said it appeared like a game to them..one where human beings were the toys. The noise and intensity that night was unbelievable, even bombing close to the international areas like Al Mina where we were living. Yemen has had this for 168 days now and the intensity they describe is so similar to Gaza. Sick.

The Saudi-led forces are using the most deadly US-Nato Weapons that are being tested now on the Yemeni People as the new laboratory as is Gaza. Watch and share. No news at all on CNN-Jazeera-BBC.
No protests from the so-called Ummah ..... not a voice of dissent, its just horrendous.

Can ANYONE say what on earth this bomb is??

Saudi Arabia has been bombing Yemen (a very poor country to its south between it and the sea) into oblivion, but we hear nothing of this from our Primeminister, our foreign minister, or our NATO US 'allies' which include the brutal and oppressive murderous Saudi regime.

Other bombs they have dropped here:

Does Kim Beasley really know what's he's negotiating as trade with California? Would he be happy to go out at night, and stalk peaceful mobs of kangaroos with firearms, and shoot at them? Would he like to see their gunshot wounds, that often don't kill outright, and watch them suffer. As for the joeys, they are either ripped from their mothers' pouches and bashed to death, or left to die slowly from starvation or predators. What sort of "human" could endorse such trade, based clinically as kangaroo "management". There's no sustainable "harvest" of wildlife. The Americans know this. They've seen Bison, passenger pigeons, overfishing, Great Awk etc. The passenger pigeon in the early 1800s may have been the most numerous bird in the world, with an estimated population of at least three billion birds—or at least a third as much as the total population of all kinds of birds in North America today. The unsustainable harvest of wildlife is a major threat to global biodiversity and to the millions of people who depend on wildlife for food and income. Overexploitation is now one of the major threats to mammals, reptiles, and birds, second only to habitat destruction. Changing the status of kangaroos from protected native wildlife, to "game" for hunters, would see carnage in our bush, and their numbers plummet tragically.

Having just read David Macilwain's remarks on and transcript of this interview, published here: . Whilst Liz Jackson is not the only party in the ABC who is guilty of not interviewing the other side of which representatives here and overseas are not lacking (e.g. try interviewing Bashar al-Assad or people in Syria or Australians for Reconciliation in Syria, who, at least, were interviewed recently on Golburn Regional ABC), she, along with all the others who promote US wars with such enthusiasm, should be held to account by the Australian public.

The most notable question to ask such irresponsible interviewers is, What gives you the right to deny Syrians their elected representative? If the world ever succeeds in establishing an effective war crimes tribunal, there will be a lot of Australian journalists called to explain themselves. See .

I just heard a very biased interview of a former ambassador to Syria- Ross Burns on ABC RN. It was all about how John Kerry et al could bring about the removal of Bashar al Assad, how thin on the ground decent leaders are in that area and how his replacement therefore is likely to be someone unknown. I guess s/he will be unknown because puppets aren’t usually famous until someone famous pulls the strings. Our press seem to be casually psychopathic re the consequences of their faithfully reporting the US propaganda. Millions of people have died in the middle east in the past few years because of this kind of 'reporting' and 'analysis' and 'opinion' bias. How can ABC programmers live with their consciences?

Yes, these fossil-fuel reared big apes have nothing to rein them in except each other and they are acting with unbridled savagery in their mad grabs for power, where they will actually kill any other ape that does not bow down to them. Hence Australia and Europe in Syria, following the psychopathic apes from the US. Merkel seems like a really bad codependent female in this alpha pack, if you accept the premise that male apes tend to dominate. By the way, I am currently reading Richard Wrangham's Sexual coercion in primates and humans (2009) in case anyone wants to discuss it with me. Even the kindle version cost a packet - over $60. It is a collection of scientific articles, or chapters, on the subject by various people.

Does anyone think this is at all funny? The Minster for Immigration, Peter Dutton , the Prime Minister, Mr Abbott and a few others were on a stage together this week waiting for something. Peter Dutton said to the PM "it's a bit like Cape York time." The PM who had recently been north of Australia in PNG replied "We had a bit of that up in Port Moresby," Mr Dutton said: "Time doesn't mean anything when you're about to be, you know, have water lapping at your door." To which the PM laughed. Firstly if water is lapping at the doors of those on small Pacific islands, surely it will be lapping higher on Australia's shores as well? Maybe our doors are generally back further from the high tide level than on a smaller island but the process and the direction are the same? Secondly, wouldn't time mean more to you rather than less if you were about to be inundated (the word that obviously escaped Mr.Dutton as he blundered on, his every idiocy caught by a boom microphone overhead.) Unfortunately and worryingly, I don't think these people in power are, as the PM of Kiribati, Anote Tong complains, just "morally irresponsible" and "arrogant" nor as described by Marshall Islands Foreign Minister, Tony be Brun and Gary Juffa, Governor of Oro Provence, PNG "insensitive" but they are quite frankly, juvenile. That's a real worry for people in such high positions with major (grown up) decisions to make which profoundly affect millions of other people.

Recent CIA assessments have warned that the war is approaching a critical stage in which Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is losing territory and strength, and might soon be forced to relinquish all but a narrow corridor of the country to rebel groups. If the al-Assad government has some stronghold against ISIS in Syria, then the bombing by Australia and allied forces could destroy this, and open up the country more to ISIS. Instead of working against the "regime", we should be working together to improve security. If thousands as leaving Syria, then bombing will mean more asylum seekers and refugees. Russia has stepped up naval training exercises off the Syrian coast in recent months and is preparing to hold more drills, according to several sources. Sources in the United States, Israel and Lebanon have said that Russian soldiers have joined combat operations on Syrian soil. Russia would continue to supply weapons to the Syrian government, following warnings from US and NATO over Moscow's increasing involvement in the Syrian conflict. Many in the Obama administration fear Russia will attack Syrian opposition groups that are fighting against Assad, using the war against the Islamic State as a cover. The U.S. has been sending money and weapons to the Free Syrian Army even though they’ve known since 2012 that most of these weapons were ending up in the hands of extremists. - See more at: (2/9/15) by by Diane Bukowski | . The Arab world is, in large part, turning its back on Syrian refugees. The wealthy Gulf States have spent the past four years sowing havoc in Syria – funding and arming brutal jihadists to bring down Bashar al-Assad. The US, leading the "war against terror", accepted a meagre 1 500 of Syria’s 4 million refugees to date. The US says it plans to accept 5 000-8 000 Syrian refugees next year, which is hardly acceptable when the crisis is immediate. Countries that cause and back these "civil wars" should also absorb and be responsible for the human migrations they cause.

(11/9/15) by Stephen Lendman | Global Research

On September 10, 2014, Obama lied claiming his intent “to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL" – adding "these terrorists could pose a growing threat beyond that region, including to the United States."

He willfully misled the US public saying he “ordered our military to take targeted action against ISIL to stop its advances…These strikes…helped save the lives of thousands of innocent men, women and children."

Washington recruits, arms, funds, trains, and directs them the same way it used Mujahideen fighters in the 1980s against Soviet Russia in Afghanistan, as well as Al Qaeda and other likeminded takfiri groups today.

They serve US imperial interests, used against independent governments Washington wants toppled – replaced by subservient puppet regimes. Terror bombing Iraqi and Syrian targets has nothing to do with degrading and defeating them – everything to do with destroying vital infrastructure in both countries, balkanizing them for easier control and ousting Assad.

According to RT recent articles saying that Putin is going to send in militia to help Syria are without source and have not been confirmed by Russia. "An unsourced story originating on an Israeli website claimed Russia was about to deploy significant military assistance to Syria to fight Islamic State. This set the media aflame and had Washington issuing warnings. The story was not only unsourced, but also untrue. But it did reveal how the West frames its illegal war against Syria." The debate below involes Eric Draitser, Danny Makki and Fawaz Gerges on the show Crosstalk.

Original source of this article was The Russian Federation can host a great number of refugees from Syria, just as it has accepted a record number of people who fled the war in Ukraine, claims the presidential advocate for children’s rights, Pavel Astakhov.

Our territory, our culture and our history, even our social situation are actually capable of withstanding this,” the ombudsman told the RSN radio when asked if Russia could open the doors for refugees from Syria.

After the beginning of the Donbass conflict we were ready to accept all Ukrainian orphans and there were about 90,500 of them at that moment,” Astakhov added. “We were ready to accept them all, we have resources and potential for this.”

The official also emphasized that refugees in Russia must not forever remain dependent from social programs, but must become responsible members of the society.

Today we have a different category of refugees, they are not desperate, starving, poor and unemployed people. No, they are mostly people with average income who primarily seek peace. They need conditions for work and education and European governments must apply effort to this,” Astakhov told journalists. “We also could carry out such program or render help if there is a desire for this,” he added.

The head of the Federal Migration Service, Konstantin Romodanovsky, told TASS on Wednesday that Russia is ready to accept refugees from Syria on condition that they violate no laws.

He added that Russian authorities were studying asylum applications from Syrian citizens and rendered help to these people, but noted that “historically European countries are more appropriate as refuge for Syrians than the Russian Federation.”

According to Romodanovsky, 182 Syrian citizens used Russia as a transit zone when they traveled to Europe in 2015. “They observed all the rules and we have no claims against these people,” he noted.

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According to UN reports the number of refugees who moved to Europe from Syria in 2015 reached over 366,000 and specialists forecast that by the end of 2016 the total number of migrants from the Middle East and Africa in Europe can reach 850,000.

In late August, the head of Russia’s Federal Migration Service told reporters that over 1 million people arrived to the country from southeast Ukraine since the beginning of the armed conflict and about 600,000 of them decided never to return home. Of this number 114,000 took part in the government program of resettlement and received material aid and a short track in getting Russian citizenship.

In mid-June this year the UN High Commissioner for Refugees said that in 2014 the influx of Ukrainian citizens seeking refuge on Russian territory put the Russian Federation in first place in the world by number of asylum applications.

The report also stated that in 2014 Ukraine surpassed the previous years’ leader, Syria, by number of people who wanted to flee their homeland.

This has been -262779">posted to a discussion on Syria on JohnQuiggin.com

-262773">J-D

I note that you have yet to provide even one source to substantiate your own views on the Syrian conflict.

Presumably, I was right to -262752">say that you are arguing that the that I -262557">linked to on September 4th, 2015 at 02:16 on the , and innumerable others like that video were staged and that many thousands of very good actors were hired to stage those videos. Presumably you also think that the many more Syrians, whom we are told by the MSM, oppose President al-Assad have been hidden away from the view of all the local and international journalists who recorded those scenes.

J-D -262773">on September 11th, 2015 at 16:55 wrote:

... you trust the five international observers because when they made their claims they were not contradicted on the spot by their audience of journalists.

You are attempting to make my views seem crude and simplistic in order to be able to parody them. What I -262752">wrote on September 11th, 2015 at 01:26 was:

If the mainstream media claims about Syria were true, then what those observers told the must have been a pack of lies. Any competent journalist would have had no trouble in tearing to shreds the claims made by those observers. The fact that none of the observers' claims were challenged shows me that either :

1. The journalists, who had been reporting elsewhere that Bashar al-Assad was a brutal mass murderer, were grossly negligent in not having put that to the observers, or

2. Those journalists knew that the 'reports' they had written about Syria were untrue and that they would be shown up for the liars that they were if they had attempted to present that narrative to the press conference.

Given that the Syrian conflict was so much the focus of the news at the time, how do you explain the complete failure of the media outlets that had so demonised President Bashar al-Assad to even utter a word at that media conference, let alone report it?

This comment has also bee posted to -262765">JohnQuiggin.com and . Below is of the start the transcript of the above 13:24 minute video ": What The Media Is Hiding, Help Go Home" by Mimi al Laham, also known as "the ".

This is Syrian Girl. The media's Painting the refugee crisis as an acuteissue, but the Syrian war and refugees had been there for four years and Aylan [Kurdi] wasn't the first child refugee to drown. Last month an eleven year Syrian girl old drowned off the coast of Egypt. So, why is there such a media push now? Well, it's just in time for when France, Britain and Australia were asked to join the US's war on Syria. In fact, the US asked Australia to join his coalition a week before Aylan died. So, they're using sympathy for this child's death to drop bombs on more children while crying crocodile tears over them as they run from those bombs.

Just look at this headline from the Sun: "BOMB SYRIA" "FOR AYLAN". You'd think they'd make themselves less obvious. This is the city that Aylan comes from. The area was blown to smithereens by the US. Rupert Murdoch couldn't even wait for Aylan's body to go cold before he started exploiting it for more war on Syria. ...

Sydney: US policy maker threatens warlike acts against Russia over ISIS This whole thing about ISIS smells. All the agonising about bombing its controlled areas in Syria and Iraq, involving Australia, involving others – and still it exists and grows. Then, Russia intervenes last week in Syria, promising to refit the Syrian army, join with the Syrian air force at its bases – and launch the attacks needed to crush this thing once and for all. And what is Australia’s response? Opposition. Now it gets worse – and sinister. For Australia and for our allies, it has from the start all been about removing President Assad from power. They say so. At a Sydney meeting of the Australia / Israel; Jewish Affairs Council on September 8, Elliott Abrams, a former senior adviser of George Bush and a member of the shadow-government ‘Council For Foreign Relations ‘ (CFR) in the USA, threatened acts of war against Russia. This creature conferred privately with Prime Minister Abbott only the day before. He does not speak alone. Abrams was quoted by the Sydney Morning Herald: "If we're serious about defeating ISIS, we need to be serious about bringing the Assad regime … to an end." "You cannot allow an Iranian or Russian veto … We have to reject that. They have no right to dominate the government of Syria and determine Syria's future. "That's what it would take – a willingness to say to the Russians, 'We're not willing to tolerate barrel bombs slaughtering civilians. So we're willing to destroy the Syrian air force. So you had better not have people at that air base'." The USA bears the responsibility for bringing on the war against President Assad. Its allies have aided the so-called 'opposition' which has also included Islamists connected to al Qaeda. Russia has also insisted that US allies like Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar have also supported ISIS when it suited them too in their war against Assad. Israel may also have trained ISIS. This is filth politics. The idea that these American garbage can lecture the world about Assad, coming up even now with stories about chemical weapons being used by Assad and so on – staggers credibility. This is from the very same people who gave us a war to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. To now threaten Russia as Mr. Abrams did, means that there is something in ISIS we are not meant to find. Australian nationalists might think better of Russia’s intervention in Syria: let Assad win the war! (8/9/15) | SMH

This comment has also been -262752">posted to the JohnQuiggin.Com forum web-site.

J-D -262562">wrote on September 4th, 2015 at 09:54 on the (now closed) Monday Message Board of 24 Aug 2015 :

Why do you trust this source?

J-D -262734">wrote on September 10th, 2015 at 14:56 :

In the closed Monday Message Board I -262562">asked you 'Why do you trust this source?' and you -262578">responded 'Which source?'

I was asking about the mentioned in the -262557">only comment of yours that I -262557">linked to.

I had not realised that you had linked to the post you were referring to. I am not in the habit of linking to other posts as I prefer to use the one link allowed by the forum software for to link to other sites, usually .

I trust that video, because it is consistent with everything else I know about . Of course, I cannot know for certain that the whole video, including crowds of supporters of President Bashar al-Assad, was not staged, but, if it was, the actors they must have hired seem to have done an extremely good job. So too, must all the many thousands of other actors in the almost innumerable other videos now available which show hundreds, if not many thousands of Syrians greeting President Bashar al-Assad wherever he goes in Syria.

J-D -262735">wrote on September 10th, 2015 at 14:56 :

And now I will ask you a separate question: Why do you trust those five international observers?

If the mainstream media claims about Syria were true, then what those observers told the must have been a pack of lies. Any competent journalist would have had no trouble in tearing to shreds the claims made by those observers. The fact that none of the observers' claims were challenged shows me that either :

1. The journalists, who had been reporting elsewhere that Bashar al-Assad was a brutal mass murderer, were grossly negligent in not having put that to the observers, or

2. Those journalists knew that the 'reports' they had written about Syria were untrue and that they would be shown up for the liars that they were if they had attempted to present that narrative to the press conference.

Why is it that when it comes to taking in the rest of the world, that the demand is always aimed at European countries and the Anglosphere? Note that they are calling for Eastern Europe to 'share the burden' and not China, which has empty cities? Note when Communism fell in the East people started asking whether Eastern Europe would soon be ready for immigration, is if it were a mandatory step? Why doesn't this also apply to Asia, or Africa? Why is it that we get upset when Hungary decides not to take refugees, but are silent when rich gulf states like Saudi Arabia or Qatar take NONE? I think this belies a racism far worse than the "racist far right". It reveals a racism which far surpasses that of the Front National or UKIP, or even the BNP. Not even the BNP, hell, not even Golden Dawn have proposed demographic displacement and engineering as a "solution" to a population problem. They may demand repatriation, but that is nothing compared to what people are proposing today, which is wholesame demographic transformation, with no European nation left alone. Not a single one. They will blame the far right for tensions, but I think the truth is even scarier than them gaining popularity. The real disturbing thing is that when it comes to protecting the rights of workers and the society, they have the best rhetoric, and they may, after all, be vindicated in their concerns about Europe's demographic changes and the forces pushing for it.

You make your point, William, I have removed the comment, and am now putting it here, slightly altered. I suppose my problem was that the press release left out a step for the average reader, which is how such wars are caused by overpopulation. Without saying this (and I understand that a press release does not give much space) readers could get the impression that candobetter.net endorses the widespread idea that the Middle East is just an out of control high birthrate third world region and always was, which would be very far from the truth. It is that kind of impression that is being used to excuse Australia's mad droit du seigneur bombing venture. The problem is that Syria was in fine shape until 2011, despite the population growth it experienced. It was neocon driven 'interventions' that caused an inflow of refugees from the neighboring countries and it is neocon intervention that drove sectarian conflict. You could say that our resource wars in the area are driven by our huge populations and their need for resources to fuel our industrial economies, but most people would not make that connection without help. At the moment Syria needs all the help it can get, so it is important to show that its problems are not of its own making and to give people details. To do this I prabably should simply have cited parts of your press release in a new article of my own. Sorry; it was an error of judgement, made under the intense stress of our leader taking us into a terrible war that will only make more people miserable and exacerbate population mayhem in that region and in Europe. I felt that it would be helpful to Australians to see how parallel the trajectories of Syria and Australia have been - both experiencing unprecedented population growth due to high immigration since the second world war, because both countries are similarly at the behest of power elite policies. I also wanted to point out how Syria has helped its neighboring dispossessed populations, such as the Palestinians (one reason that Israel targets it). Syria's population growth, like Australia's, has been severely impacted by migration due to wars and economic 'interventions' among its neighbours. Syria is the only country that has given Palestinians their own area and citizenship status. It has also absorbed a large proportion of Iraqi refugees since the US-NATO intervention there. Syria is a non-sectarian state and its president was democratically reelected in June 2014 by an outstanding majority. It is not known for a high birth rate and the birth rate is in decline at about 2.25 in 2014, unlike some of its neighbours, such as Saudi Arabia (Ref: . Feel free to say more, William. You can get your party's message across in this way too.

Dear CDB In reference to your editorial comment beginning with: "[Editorial Comment: This article suggests that Syria is in trouble due to overpopulation..." I'd point out that the SPP media release did not say Syria is in trouble due to overpopulation. It said: "To achieve this ultimate goal, we also need to address underlying DRIVERS [plural] of resource scarcity and conflict in Syria, INCLUDING rapid population growth." It clearly states therefore that rapid population growth is just one of the factors involved. Your editorial therefore is based on a false premise and introduces irrelevant issues such as comparisons with Australia's population growth. In my view it would be best be removed so as not to confuse readers. Regards William

The reports on CNN by Ivan Watson, from Izmir Turkey.

It's all happening right there in broad daylight.

Shops are selling Life-Jackets to the Refugees, who are waiting out there in the open.

The going rates are $1300/- USD.

Then the refugees are taken to boats from the Izmir port and from there to the Greek Islands

It's all being micro managed and overseen by Turkish Intel beyond doubt.

This is not some surreptitious smuggling operation. It's happening in broad daylight wth tv crews interviewing the refugees in Izmir.

Photos taken from TV set below:




This is what is behind the migration push and the wars. The power elites want continuous population growth and disorganisation. We can see that the Vatican, which is only a huge bank, is in there amongst these despicable and arrogant people who consider that they are human and the rest of us are not. "Peter Sutherland is a former Attorney General of Ireland, a non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International, and a former chairman of oil giant BP. He has also attended meetings of The Bilderberg Group. Pope Francis has appointed Sutherland as an adviser to the Administration of the Patrimony of the Holy See, which manages the Vatican’s investment and property portfolios, and he is on the advisory board of Opus Dei’s flagship graduate business school. The EU should “do its best to undermine” the “homogeneity” of its member states, the UN’s special representative for migration has said. Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural. He also suggested the UK government’s immigration policy had no basis in international law. He was being quizzed by the Lords EU home affairs sub-committee which is investigating global migration. Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development, which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas. He told the House of Lords committee migration was a “crucial dynamic for economic growth” in some EU nations “however difficult it may be to explain this to the citizens of those states”. ‘More open’ An ageing or declining native population in countries like Germany or southern EU states was the “key argument and, I hesitate to the use word because people have attacked it, for the development of multicultural states”, he added. “It’s impossible to consider that the degree of homogeneity which is implied by the other argument can survive because states have to become more open states, in terms of the people who inhabit them. Just as the United Kingdom has demonstrated.” The UN special representative on migration was also quizzed about what the EU should do about evidence from the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) that employment rates among migrants were higher in the US and Australia than EU countries. [...] Read more:

The Australian media reaction to the situation in Europe is predictably shallow. In a fact-free article published by Fairfax a week ago, freelance journalist Gwynne Dyer devotes half a page to excoriating European nations who fail to live up to his liberal expectations in 'Europe's Refugee Crisis: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly' Dyer's article categorises the response to the situation based on a simplistic formula. Those who take more refugees; good. Those who take less than they should (according to Dyer); bad. Those who resist in any way; ugly. Dyer characterises the worst offenders, Eastern European nations, as being understandably - but inexcusably - reticent about taking migrants because of their Commie past. This attitude reflects a predictable view that Soviet communism retarded the development of an 'advanced' liberal attitude in the nations it dominated. It also clearly demonstrates an assumption that opposition to liberal norms is inherently wrong and bad. No need to worry your heads about any details or analysis, kids, this sort of behaviour is just UGLY. The media says so. The 'quiet, dignified Swedes' earn a gold star for their willingness to take big numbers, as does Lebanon who has already provided shelter for many. At no point does the article consider any nation's cultural or environmental capacity to admit/settle refugees. There is - of course - no discussion at all about why Asian, African, or South American nations cannot assist with giving temporary asylum to the unfortunate people driven from their homes by war. No consideration of the economic situations of Eastern European countries as opposed to - say - Saudi Arabia or the UAE. No discussion about the possibility of North African nations (that are culturally closer to Syria than Europe) taking larger numbers. No, the fact that refugees are attracted to Europe and other Western nations means that - almost 80 years after Rudyard Kipling's death and 70 years after the foundation of the UN - refugee resettlement is still largely a white mans burden, according to journo's like Dyer. In the hard copy version of the Canberra Times, this waste of column space ironically appeared alongside a considered and factual piece on the Chinese Free Trade Agreement. The lack of any real analysis on matters deemed by the media to fall within the liberal consensus should be cause for concern for any thinking Australian.

by craig on September 7, 2015 1:33 pm in Given the disgraceful Sun front page and middle spread urging war on Syria, and the all-out propaganda on Sky News, it is important to understand why Murdoch is pushing so hard for war. I therefore reproduce from February 2013. It is important to note that the links are to industry publications: this is very genuine, hard information. Israel Grants Oil Rights in Syria to Murdoch and Rothschild Israel oil exploration rights inside Syria, in the occupied Golan Heights, to Genie Energy. Major shareholders of Genie Energy – which also has interests in shale gas in the United States and shale oil in Israel – include Rupert Murdoch and Lord Jacob Rothschild. This from a 2010 Genie Energy
Claude Pupkin, CEO of Genie Oil and Gas, commented, “Genie’s success will ultimately depend, in part, on access to the expertise of the oil and gas industry and to the financial markets. Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch are extremely well regarded by and connected to leaders in these sectors. Their guidance and participation will prove invaluable.” “I am grateful to Howard Jonas and IDT for the opportunity to invest in this important initiative,” Lord Rothschild said. “Rupert Murdoch’s extraordinary achievements speak for themselves and we are very pleased he has agreed to be our partner. Genie Energy is making good technological progress to tap the world’s substantial oil shale deposits which could transform the future prospects of Israel, the Middle East and our allies around the world.”
For Israel to seek to exploit mineral reserves in the occupied Golan Heights is plainly illegal in international law. Japan was succesfully sued by Singapore before the International Court of Justice for exploitation of Singapore’s oil resources during the second world war. The argument has been made in international law that an occupying power is entitled to opeate oil wells which were previously functioning and operated by the sovereign power, in whose position the occupying power now stands. But there is absolutely no disagreement in the authorities and case law that the drilling of new wells – let alone fracking – by an occupying power is illegal. Israel tried to make the same move twenty years ago but was forced to back down after a strong reaction from the Syrian government, which gained diplomatic support from the United States. Israel is now seeking to take advantage of the weakened Syrian state; this move perhaps casts a new light on recent Israeli bombings in Syria. In a rational world, the involvement of Rothschild and Murdoch in this international criminal activity would show them not to be fit and proper persons to hold major commercial interests elsewhere, and action would be taken. Naturally, nothing of the kind will happen. The following was a comment on the original site of publication of the above. Its all interlinked with US Vanguard Group inc. Dick Cheney was also a member of Genie Energy Corporation Strategic Advisory Board. Dick Cheney (Halliburton), had close to $85 million invested in the Vanguard Group. Rupert Murdoch is Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of News Corp. Vanguard Group Inc held 85,939,439 shares on 12/31/2012 worth $2,192,315,109 in News Corp. John Kerrys wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, has over $3,500,001 stake in General Electric Co. Biggest stakeholder in General Electric Co is Vanguard Group: Jul 30, 2012 The board of directors of General Electric Co. has elected John J. Brennan as an independent member of the company’s board of directors. Brennan is chairman emeritus and a senior advisor of The Vanguard Group Inc. Vangaurd got Investments in every going concern. Raytheon, for example 15,664,626 $920,923,362 This from 2013: ‘Raytheon stock nears all-time high amid news of possible cruise-missile strike in Syria Stock shares of perennial defense contracting powerhouse Raytheon hit nearly $77 apiece Tuesday as news of a possible US strike in Syria intensified. The US has said if it strikes Syrian government targets for alleged use of chemical weapons, it would likely use Tomahawk cruise missiles from warships positioned in the Mediterranean. Raytheon is responsible for making and selling the bulk of the long-range, subsonic missiles to the US government.’ John Kerry spouse, Teresa Heinz Kerry, holdings. 3. Raytheon Co. $960,010 – $2,200,000 • Raytheon Co. received $11,662,797,975 in government contracts for fiscal year 2007, including a total of approx. $10 billion from the Army, Navy, and Air Force. US goes to war, they the politicians get return on investments from the very instruments that do the killing. That’s how the game works.

We have the evidence. Was just watching a CNN report from Turkey, which was reporting on the Refugee crisis. What he stated was the following. 1) That these were a new wave of refugees from across Syria. The earlier 1.5 million continued to live in the Camps. 2) So they were flowing in across the border after which they would assemble in certain town where there would be buses waiting in BROAD DAY LIGHT!! 3) This was happening with Turkish policemen standing right there 4) After which the buses would ply to the Turkish coast, get the people into boats run by Smugglers and Human Traffickers, who then take them and dump them into the Greek Islands,from where they would start heading towards Germany, the promised land. Its all happening due to the complicity of the Erdogan-Dovutoglu Govt and Turkish Intelligence. The target as we all know is to provoke a war on Assad's Syria. Also another immediate target is the November elections. Today the Kurdish party HDP HQ has been attacked. With the growing "terror attacks" in Turkey by the "PKK". The Turkish Jets are attacking PKK targets in Iraq. Unfortunately even the opposition secular centrist CHP and the ultra-nationalist MHP (very anti-Kurdish), both have succumbed to do growing nationalist rhetoric and have voted for Turkish strikes in PKK areas of Iraq. This does not bode well for them electorally, as now the AKP seems to be controlling the political narrative. The essence of that is that basically the Kurds in the South-East need to be reigned in and the Syrian Kurds need to be neutralised. For which only the AKP can - vote Erdogan - vote Dovutoglu, get us a majority, break the back of the Kurdish HDP party. For that we will worsen the war in Syria, send in more Isis into Aleppo and Idlib. And send in a flood of refugees into Europe so that they are compelled by public opinion to support our war against Assad!! This is what its all about.

I've noted that people are speaking against Assad far more now. ABC Radio in particular. The argument is that Assad is killing far more people than ISIS. Whether that is true or not, may not be all that relevant. Vladimir Putin: We talked about this on numerous occasions a long time ago. I believe this is an absolutely expected crisis. If you remember, or look it up in your archives, we in Russia, yours truly in particular, said a few years ago that we are in for large-scale problems if our so-called western partners continue with their misguided foreign policy, as I always referred to it, especially in Muslin regions, in the Middle East, North Africa – the policy they are actually still conducting. What is this policy? That of imposing their standards without taking into consideration the history, religion, culture or national characteristics of these regions. This is, primarily, the policy conducted by our American partners; Europe blindly follows the lead, complying with its so-called allied commitments, and then it bears the brunt. Putin is correct here. As I've discussed before, I think one of the reason the West is now incapable of helping out, even by taking in refugees (especially by taking in masses of refugees!), is that the culture in the West is so far removed from how the rest of the world works, that we simply don't understand the world anymore. As we have been de-culturalised, neo-Liberalised and believe in some ersatz, "Politically Correct" morality, which is really just a religion, and disowned the ideas that the rest of the world still values (such as putting your own before others, ethnic loyalty, traditional values, respect for culture and history, sentimentality), we just can't understand the rest of the world. Our opinions of what should be done in Syria and elsewhere is based on our own bias, that our anomalous society is the 'normal', and is what the rest of the world would be like, if only they could be 'free' from from whatever it is that holds them back. We model our solution on the assumption that they would also have no bias, no loyalty above neo-liberal economics, and would abandon their heritage and their identity because it may be profitable or 'democratic' to do so. We've seen this fail in Iraq, and have learned nothing. So our attempts in Syria will fail. Quite simply, the people in the Middle East, as elsewhere want to be governed by their own, even if it second rate compared to being subjected to our systems. Selling out your people and your future isn't something the rest of the world does as keenly as the west. Which makes Europe's eagerness to take refugees ironic. It is precisely because Europeans are willing to threaten centuries of history and culture and demographic identity on a whim, that makes then unprepared. Europeans who think nothing of transforming their country, and themselves for the moment, for some temporary moral gain are the LAST people to understand how to fix the rest of the world. These people can't understand what the rest of the world wants, and will push solutions which will end with disaster. The million+ refugees that Europe will admit (permanently) will result in social strife, riots and division, and possible civil conflict in a generation. They'll be destroying what people want. Unfortunately, there is no "Left" anymore, as they are too busy with "Social Justice" issues. This leaves the populist "far right" as really the only viable option. This also means that the West has little choice but to shut the doors, and close its ears. There is no government capable of understanding the situation, and in Europe and the West, it is Putin, and not Merkel or Cameron, or Obama, or Abbot, who can realise the situation for what it is. The rest writes itself.

I have no doubt that Abbott will take Australia to (another illegal) war on Syria. I am implacably opposed to this. But then people ask, what about ISIS? Well let me see. 1) After the long and appalling historical record ANY western intervention should be a 'red line' for citizens of the west, who are not suffering a serious bout of (mainstream media induced) amnesia 2) Western governments could cease arming, financing, training the so-called 'moderate' opposition, most of whom share the same or similar islamist ideology to ISIS, and many of whom end up fighting alongside them. 3) Western and regional governments, could assist Syria/Iraq etc to secure the Syrian borders to prevent the aformentioned groups entering Syria, often ending up assisting ISIS et al 4) Though it will never happen, if 'we' really must militarily intervene to stop ISIS, then we could ask to join (with heads bowed down in utter shame and disgrace) and coordinate with the Syrian government (and Kurds) - the still (much to the west's frustration) the recognized legal authorities - who have been fighting ISIS and their cousins for the past 4 years, notwithstanding the efforts of western and regional governments to undermine them (because the real goal has always been, not destroying ISIS, but regime change in Damascus). 5) We could end sanctions on Syria, so they are better able to deal with these terrorist groups.

My second thought (the first being of the sadness of the situation), when I saw the pictures of the drowned boy and heard of the "world wide" reaction to it, was this was deliberate and blatant, and DISGUSTING manipulation of the people, to make them more eager to accept the states population policies. There are many children who die as a result of war, violence and dispossession, but why this one in particular? He was going to Greece, and the message is, let them all in. If he drowned going to Saudi Arabia, it wouldn't be news, because Saudi Arabia is not populated by the right people. Le Pen is right, and brave to call it out. And to make the situation more interesting, those who are talking about helping the refugees are acting with the very same racist assumptions they accuse Le Pen of having. Why this boy? Why demands of Europe and not Asia? Why no calls for China, which has entire cities empty to help? Why do people assume they can only really be helped by going to Europe, Australia, UK, Canada? There are obvious answers to this, and I think some of it has to do with grievances people have about their own state, than a desire to help.

Previously (7/9/15) on

Relations of victims of jihadist groups in Syria took the French government to court on Monday, accusing Foreign Affairs Minister Laurent Fabius of encouraging violence in their country by praising the al-Qaida affiliate, the al-Nusra Front.

The case went to a Paris appeal court on Monday, a lower court having declared itself incompetent to hear it because it concerned France's foreign policy.

The plaintiffs, all Syrians, claim that several statements by Fabius stoked the Syrian conflict in 2012.

Among them was a declaration, made during a visit to a refugee camp in August, that "Bashar al-Assad doesn't deserve to be on this earth."

They also cite a quotation in Le Monde newspaper when Fabius reported that the Syrian opposition coalition and "all the Arabs" opposed the US decision to put al-Nusra on its terrorist list because "they are doing a good job on the ground".

Legal officials on Monday asked the appeal court to endorse the lower court's decision on the grounds that the statements concerned French foreign policy and could not be taken out of that context.

For the plaintiffs' lawyer, Damien Viguier, they were "stirring up civil war" and "personal misconduct distinct from the government's policy".

They want Fabius condemned for "provocation to commit mass crimes" and want a symbolic euro in compensation.

A similar case brought before the Court of Justice of the Republic, which judges accusations by ministers while there in office, was closed in January 2014.

The child's family were living safely in Turkey, and had to pass through safe countries to get there. They had been in Turkey for 3 years, and they had never been in a war zone. The place where they did live has since seen violence, from ISIS, but was safe in their time. The father did not go on the boat, but put his family on, without life jackets. They wanted to go to Canada, but there was no formal application. The father wanted to have his teeth fixed, by the welfare system. The photo has been used by the media to symbolize the plight of asylum seekers, and how the West should do the right thing and take more refugees! It's backfired, by revealing that not all those flocking to Europe are escaping "persecution and terror"! However, it's assumed that the war and the de-stablization of Iraq and Syria are inevitable, and unavoidable. The UN is admitting defeat and derelict of duty. They should be UNITING NATIONS against intervention by first world nations, their de-stablization and illegal wars. How many world leaders are actually trying to address what's causing the mass exodus from Syria, and trying to end what's causing it? How many are condemning the US war machine for the tragic loss of countries and lives? The tragic image of the small, drowned child is being used to promote guilt in the West, and encourage Europe and Australia to take in more asylum seekers from Syria, and other countries in conflict, but this is not the way! The truth must be known, that not all those entering are fleeing terror, and that we must not continue bombing the sovereign nation of Syria, but work with them to end this conflict.

Good call nine'o'clubs! As I see it we're living the neoliberal dream as opposed to the real world. Unfortunately, the former doesn't exist, only the latter prevails. Worse still all of our mainstream political parties are beholden to the neoliberal dream as are big business, the mainstream media, local councils, educational institutions, etc. The all believe the illusion that never ending growth is the panacea to all and everything. I take on board what Kelvin and anonymous are saying, but how do we unhinge ourselves from those who espouse ourselves with this growth fetish? Everything we touch and do is tainted by their influence. An example is that I prefer to use the Roy Morgan unemployment/underemployment figures to those of the ABS. The contrast couldn't be more stark: for the quarter ending in June the ABS had unemployment at 6.1% whereas Roy Morgan's figures were 10% for those unemployed and an additional 8.7% underemployed. Currently Australia is a leaderless rabble! Most investors are advised not put all their eggs in one basket, shop around for the best deals, etc. Since our current crop of neoliberal crazed leaders have been in power, 1983 and beyond, we have strangled, castrated and handicapped all forms of industry except mining, finance, housing and the service industries. What a pack of losers!! The mining industry boom has expired, the finance industry is one giant ponzi scheme, the housing industry has been totally corrupted and the service industry was only ever going to be a secondary industry. Australia is now a leaderless nation with no vision, no dream and no endeavour! Like the driverless train heading down the tracks at million miles and hour towards a dead end and all we do is throw more coal on the fire!! We need leaders, we need political parties, we need the people to have a vision, to have ideas, to have aspirations, to have hope and some confidence in the future. To that end we need industries that are going offer employment in the industries of the 21st century - renewables, IT industries, science and technological research, agriculture, environmental management, eco-tourism, etc. We need and education system that caters for all of the requirements of all students. We need to invest in our youth and provide for them what our parents provided for us. In our vision we need to be able provide for the future at all times. Currently, we are not doing this; from the Prime Minister down all we are currently thinking about is ourselves! Our greed knows no bounds!!

AUSTRALIA FIRST PARTY PRESS RELEASE National Wattle Day 1st September 2015 A Celebration of Australian Culture Native Australian Awards Announced John Wilson Commitment to the cause of freedom and justice under inherited Commonwealth Law Phylis lobl Excellence in the creation and performance of folk music to the advancement of Australian Culture Bernard Gaynor Commitment to advancing the values of a High Culture for Australian Society AUSTRALIA FIRST PARTY P.O. Box 223 Croydon 3136 ausfirst [ AT ] hotmail.com National Contact Line 02 8587 0014 Australia First Party - Reclaiming Australia for Australians The Protocol for The Order Of The Wattle Blossom SALUTATION In addressing a recipient of this Native Australian Award “Order Of The Wattle Blossom” is spoken following the normal usage of the appellation. In written communication, following the name of a recipient, OWB initials are added. “Order Of The Wattle Blossom” salutation surpasses accreditation attributes of any other Australian award, excepting traditional Defence Force Awards .

You seem to be saying that because culture is fluid, it's not reliable as the basis for creating a solid identity that the citizens of a society can share. If I understand correctly, your view is that identity is more soundly based around shared genetics. Not quite. You CAN attempt to create a nation based on adherence to a culture or an idea or ideology. Even Nazi Germany was stronger about adherence to the regime than to race. Those against the state or the states ideas saw themselves in prison far faster than any non-Aryans (it wasn't a crime to be non-German) or even those who married or had children with non-Europeans. Defining a nation be an idea or a specified culture means that in order for one to be part of the nation, one must accept the propositions or the culture. IF you don't, you're out. This means that one is therefore not free to question the culture or the principles which people say "make us Australian" or whatever. So whenever people say "being Australian/American is about ...." where .... is some ideology, moral princple, political or economic system, it means one can't be free to question it. Society then becomes conservative and stagnates. However, if an identity is based on ancestry, this offers more freedom, as identity isn't based on a requirement to uphold moral principles (Which may have become outdated, or even self destructive) but something less fungible, less changeable. You can't change what you are, so such an identity is more static. A nation with this type of identity can reform, challenge, allow challenges, but nevertheless recognise itself as a nation. A nation based on principles, ideas cannot be fully free. An identity based on propositions cannot be free. It will turn increasingly to a tyranny. This is how Political Correctness gets a stranglehold. 'White Nationalism' is probably an American thing, where white identity means something compared to their black population. It means little elsewhere. Your typical Pole or German or Hungarian would identify as Pole, German or Hungarian first before they identify as white or European. But nevertheless, it is interesting to observe at diverse workplaces the dynamic whereby this distant genetic heritage comes to the fore regardless. You mention you relate more to people living on your street. My argument is that through most of history, those people would generally have the same heritage anyway. The two coincided. It is only recently where this has been challenged, where the 'street' is a sampling of people throughout the globe. I remain unconvinced that such a society operates the same. I dont see multiculturalism working, not at work, not in the suburbs. People live with 'tolerance', but something changes, hence why people who promote multiculturalism constantly and relentlessly scream about how great it is. They have to cover up the fact that it is a second rate society. Especially since it takes away freedom by requiring people to accept more and more propositions and ideals. I'm also sceptical that it can work as people say it can work. It just doesn't appear to work, except when there is a strong, very strong dominating majority. When things become more diverse, society fractures. I'm not saying a multicultural or multiracial society can't work. I'm saying that such a society can never be truly free (as membership is based on ideas than identity, and those ideas must be enforced), nor will it ever be as cohesive (there is growing evidence to support this). In the USA, identity politics is growing. It is growing in Europe. It will grow in Australia (it already is showing with Reclaim).

Thanks for the ">footnote, ed. The attraction of a growing population to our business class is simply growing domestic demand. More consumers, more workers, bigger bottom lines. Obviously this grows GDP, but it does nothing to enrich the lives of the existing population. When social and environmental factors are figured in, mass immigration results in a decline in living standards for most technologically advanced Western countries. GDP per person is, I agree, a better (though still far from perfect) measure of economic performance. To my mind, GDP per person is only loosely related to population. In theory, you could have a huge population with low productivity that would have lower material standards of living. Or a very small population with high levels of productivity that enjoys a high material standard of living. In this latter case, the nations GDP would be quite small, but GDP per person would be high. Your point about the disruption created by mass immigration is relevant and may explain why countries that continue to develop better technology have flat GDP per capita. It could be that the efficiencies gained by automation are being eroded by inefficiencies caused by the arrival of new migrants who are ill prepared to work in their host countries. The diversion of investment capital to housing instead of more innovative / productive ventures is also certainly contributing. The US author Mark Krikkorian has written some interesting pieces on the productivity lowering effects of a cheap labour force. He argues that cheap labour acts as a disincentive to investment in labour saving technology, effectively holding back potentially big increases in productivity for the sake of quicker, easier, but potentially smaller gains achieved by forcing down wages.

The Government is considering a United States request to expand bombing operations across Iraq's western border into Syria. Prime Minister Tony Abbott is set to give the go-ahead for RAAF combat missions to Syria but he remains non-committal about accepting more of the vast number of refugees fleeing the fighting in Syria and Iraq. The Greens want Australia to agree to an emergency intake of 20,000 refugee fleeing the violence. (6/9/15) | Sky News Surely the two issues are related? The more Syria is bombed, the more people will spill out into migration, and the chaos will continue. This is ultimately a decision for the National Security Committee of Cabinet to make. The former head of the Australian Defence Force (ADF), Retired General Peter Gration, has signed an open letter to Prime Minister Tony Abbott opposing bombing raids in Syria. The open letter suggests bombing IS targets would potentially be illegal, could strengthen the organisation and divide the Australian community. (4/9/15) | ABC News "This should make clear what Australia's likelihood of success before the International Court of Justice would be if another party raised arguments against the legality of the bombing," the letter said.

Even if GDP was to grow as a result of population growth, this would not imply any real improvement to the state of the economy - much less any increase in the standard of living or quality of life of most Australians. Bigger is not the same as better.

The fact that GDP is flat" id="txt1"> 1  despite mass immigration says that the economy is really in deep trouble. But this should come as no surprise.

The Coalition (and Labor to a large extent) have yet to come to terms with the fact that low wage conditions represent a useful phase in the development of an economy, but that Australia is well past that stage. Most of the Western world is past that stage. Japan is past it and within a decade or so, China will probably be past it.

In the event that free trade remains the dominant paradigm for international business in coming years, the only way that advanced Western nations can maintain their wealth is by using technology to boost productivity. Expecting employees to work for longer or for less money is short sighted and will not deliver the required increases in productivity. Furthermore, it robs consumers of the purchasing power necessary to stimulate demand. Nevertheless, this is still the preferred approach of most Australian business lobby groups, including the Liberal Party.

Thirty years ago, a great Australian by the name of Allan Richard Jones (not to be confused with the corporate sock puppet on Sydney radio) founded the National Technocrat Party, which argued for appropriate technological development and radical reform of our money system. Had the policies of the NTP been adopted at that time, Australia would be riding a wave of sustainable productivity now that would be the envy of the world.

It's not too late to look at such policy ideas again.

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" id="fn1">1. ">↑  Of course, claims, that productivity, in a population with rapidly growing population, is increasing, are ludicrous. But, in my opinion, even those measures of economic performance which show per capita GDB to be flat as a result of population growth and immigration, are wrong. Given all the chaos and disruption caused by high immigration, I would expect an accurate measure of the productivity of the real economy to show not just a flat line, but a significant loss of overall productivity. - Ed

Some interesting points, Dennis. You seem to be saying that because culture is fluid, it's not reliable as the basis for creating a solid identity that the citizens of a society can share. If I understand correctly, your view is that identity is more soundly based around shared genetics. I agree that shared genetics is a good basis for identity, but recognise that it has it's limits. Outside my own extended family, I don't know whether people are closely related to me or not. They might be my third cousins, or they might be very, very distantly related. Just by looking at them, I can't tell. What makes it more likely that I can relate to those people is a shared language, values and way of living. Culture, in other words. To look at, a woman of German or Dutch extraction could be my sister. We may even have - way, way back - some shared ancestry. But so what? We don't speak the same language, our ways of living are different, our history is different and we inhabit very different environments. By contrast, consider a random person living in my street. Prior to mass immigration and multiculturalism (which is the polar opposite of cultural nationalism) I could expect to 'relate' very closely to that person, even if we weren't genetically related. I could have expected that despite any other differences between us, we would have both shared a language, some history, some core attitudes and an Australian identity. Because people become 'a people' when they have a unifying national culture. There's nothing traitorous at all about this. When I hear people describe themselves as 'white nationalists', I ask, what is this nation called 'white'? Do they mean that they're Australian / American / Canadian nationalists? Or does their identity transcend national boundaries? Are they really not nationalists, but basing their identity on their shared descent from (very distant) European forebears? Culture evolves and that's a good thing. If we could focus on Australian culture, as people like Miles Franklin, PR Stephenson and the Jindyworobaks wanted, we could shape it to become something unique and brilliant in human history. But instead, we are constantly flooded with generic western culture, largely from the US, via television - and with people from around the world who are actively encouraged to maintain their old cultures here. Australian nationalism is largely about culture, because culture is what makes Australians unique.

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J-D -262562">asked in response to my earlier -262556">two -262556">posts:

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What source? To which of my -262556">two -262557">posts are you referrring?

Had you looked at the article linked to in the , you would have noticed in , a link to a story of a press conference which ocurred on 19th June 2014 at the United Nations headquarters in New York. includes a 53 minute embedded video of the press conference. At that press conference, five independent observers attested to the fairness of the Presidential election which had been conducted on 4 June 2014. At that election 88.7% of the 73.42% of eligible Syrian voters who voted, voted for President Bashar al-Assad.

Given the proxy war that was going on at the time, and which is continuing to this day, and the obstruction, by countries like Australia and France, of expatriate Syrians who wanted to vote, I would say that that was a most impressive result and one which totally refutes the lie from the mainstream newsmedia that President Bashar al-Assad is corrupt and brutal tyrant. Strikingly, not one of 'reporters' from Australia or elsewhere, who had been pushing that narrative before and since, bothered to show up to that press conference to challenge the testimony of the election observers.

The fact is since March 2011 Syria has faced invasion by sociopath killers from almost every corner of the globe. These sociopaths have been paid for and armed by the United States France, the UK and their regional allies including Israel, Turkey, Jordan and the dictatorships of Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

The cost borne by the people of Syria is terrible - over 220,000 dead by one estimate, but in spite of the terrible cost, the Army and the people of Syria have stood by their government against the invaders.

The people of Syria have seen what happened to neighbouring Iraq as a result of two illegal wars since 1990 and economic sanctions in which Australia shamefully participated, and are resolved not to let the same happen to them. According to Ramsey Clark, who was Attornery General of the United States under President Johnson in the 1960s, as many as 3,300,000 Iraqis may have died as a result. A 13 minute of a talk by Ramsey Clarke can be found .

Fortunately, voices, which are demanding that the decision by Tony Abbott for Australia to participate in the war against the people of Syria be debated in Parliament, are starting to be heard. One of those people is .

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"But the geniuses who have dug us into this hole want us to keep digging." Governments listen to the economists' theory of Capitalistic addiction to "growth", and now we are in the hole of economic stagnation, instead of admitting limits to growth, or that they have taken the wrong track. Thus, they keep on digging the hole deeper, with "business as usual". If our economic growth is linked only to what we've gained from raw population growth, then where's the net benefit? Considering the costs of population growth, in infrastructure spending, managing the human/environmental impacts, they see opening our borders is the way of gaining jobs, and income, is sheer desperation. If the jobs go to the investors, the Chinese, then we will have a flatlining effect of a welfare blowout. If our "economic growth" is going flat, on a national and individual level, then surely we've hit the metaphorical brick-wall of limits to growth! "Limits of growth" was modeled back in the early 1970s, by the think-tank the Club of Rome, and confirmed more recently, but our powers that be ignore it, and drag along the voting public, with their incomes burgeoning costs of living, and trapped into cities constricted by congestion, unaffordable housing, crime, and a whole dystopia of deprivation.

It is beyond sadness what is happening to Syrians, However, The The west, USA, Canada and their dogs in the region are fully responsible for all the crimes committed against Syria and its people. Progressive demands should be to cut off support supplies to terrorist groups, Work with Syrian's Gov. to defeat them and restore the diplomatic relationships with Syria in order to facilitate consular services to Syrian's refugees.

I discovered this report on this morning’s AM program on the ABC at (3/9/15) | ABC AM which is NOT available as a transcript. It is a story about Petraeus encouraging Australia to join the war in Syria – advice which he gave on Wednesday night at a talk at the LOWY institute!! I guess the lack of transcript is because of that, but you can listen to the report at the link, if you have a strong stomach!

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Thank you, Helen Burgen, for your most interesting and helpful post, but could I ask you, and other contributors, in future, to use ordinary text editors, or else HTML editors which produce HTML which is less verbose and more intelligible than that contained in the earlier version of your post? Your post has been edited to move a large amount of unintelligible HTML. A file containing a copy of the above post, as it has been edited, is attached to the above article and can be downloaded. Evidently, your earlier version of the above post was created with a commercial web page editor which produces HTML which is far more verbose than it need be. -  Ed

email from Ian Penrose, a Victorian candidate for the ACF Council, about his views on population. He writes: You have asked about the subject of the human population. Let me assure you that I firmly believe (like Geoff) that we must stop it growing – not just globally but also at the national and local levels – if we are going to live in harmony with nature and care for the other species that share this finite planet. I have been a long standing advocate (in a private capacity) of that viewpoint. As evidence, in the early 1970s I joined the advocacy group, Zero Population Growth, and for a short time led its Victorian chapter. More recently I have joined Victoria First, which (despite its poorly chosen name) is focussed on stopping population growth. One hiccup in my candidacy for Council is that due to an administrative oversight, the information about me on ACF’s website is incomplete. The actual statement I submitted for publication is attached. In the section headed, “What do you hope to achieve as a councillor?” I said “to help ACF remain Australia’s leading organisation advocating for our wonderful natural environment, and contribute to ACF’s work on the drivers of sustainability.” A fundamental driver is a stable human population, and that is one key area I would advocate strongly for. It would be appreciated if you would pass onto other likeminded people my position on this critical issue.

The EU is under tremendous pressure to absorb the number of displaced people, many of whom come from the Middle East, such as Syria, and from Africa. There's been little discussion on why, or how to end the misery and overflow! It's assumed that it's part of our modern world, inevitable, and unavoidable, and must be dealt with by absorbing the huge numbers into Europe.

With global population doubled since 1970, any disruption to peace and invasions, will cause massive spilling over of people. In the past there were always new countries, or colonies, to subdue and escape to, for a better life! Now, the world is full!

According to international law, the US cannot intervene in another country militarily or otherwise without the approval, without the cooperation and coordination of that country. They want to bomb ISIS, in Syria, but it has done it without the approval of the Security Council and in clear violation of the charter of the UN. Countries that have helped arming, funding, training and facilitating the work of ISIS are telling the world they are "fighting terrorism".

Australia has a long history of participating in Washington's criminal wars.

Don Rothwell, a professor of law at the Australian National University, told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that the government was considering action that would "radically adjust Australian doctrine."

The destruction that the US invasion wreaked on Iraq, followed by Washington's open stoking of civil war in Libya and Syria, has plunged the entire region into chaos, giving rise to phenomena such as ISIS, as well as the world’s worst refugee crisis. Despite the flows to Europe, the United States has welcomed few Syrian refugees to its shores. They have a miles-long asylum backlog, insufficient temporary relief, and laborious national security screening procedures that make sure terrorists are not slipping into the country keep refugee admissions to a minimum. Refugee families have changed the demographics of their host cities, such as Shelbyville, Tennessee; Lewiston, Maine; and Minneapolis, Minnesota, all of which have reported culture clashes between Muslims expecting everything from foot baths at public colleges to dietary concessions at public schools.

Read more at (15/9/14) | WND

Politicians and the press tend to use the first term, implying that the new arrivals are being pulled toward Europe in search of economic opportunities. The United Nations insists that the vast majority of the new arrivals are in fact refugees, people who are being pushed from their homelands due to persecution or conflict.

In Paris the cost of rent is going down, due to a new law where the state sets criteria and model rents according to standard attributes of dwellings. The landlord may not demand rent more than 20% above the model set for the level of accommodation provided. The reference points include things like age of building, recency of renovations, insulation, view, balcony etc. Source: Le JT de 20 Heures du mardi 1 septembre 2015 (French New France2, 8pm Tuesday 1 September 2015.) See French report below English description. Note that France does not have a growth lobby, unlike Australia. France correctly counts population growth as a cost to the state and all dwellings in France are state subsidised, either as public rentals or as low interest loans for private purchase. Under Napoleonic Code (Roman law) all French and immigrants have a right to housing and to an income from work or from the state. This is true of most or all other ocuntries that also have a Napoleonic type code, and such countries have included the Germanic states since the 19th century. English speaking states, like Britain, United States, Australia, Canada, do not have a code of law that embodies civil rights. The Bill of ;Rights in the United States, similarly to the Charters of Rights in certain Australian states, is very inferior in terms of detail and concrete civil rights. Human Rights law is extremely abstract and hard to enforce compared to civil rights codes. "Avec , Paris coûte de moins en moins cher. Sylvain Nouallet est agent immobilier dans la capitale et depuis le 1er août et la mise en place de l'encadrement des loyers il voit déjà les prix baisser. "J'ai un studio qui était loué et qui fait 12m² à peine qui était loué 550 euros avant la loi Alur. On va devoir le porter à 376 euros charges comprises avec le nouveau dispositif", explique-t-il. Soit une économie de 180 euros pour le locataire. Des dérogations Une étude d'autres agents immobiliers le confirme : avant le 1er août, les loyers étaient trop chers dans 46% des annonces. Aujourd'hui cela ne concernerait plus que 29% des offres.  Le propriétaire doit désormais respecter un loyer de référence dans la capitale en fonction de plusieurs critères : le quartier, le nombre de pièces de l'appartement et l'année de construction de l'immeuble. Le loyer ne peut pas être majoré de plus de 20% sauf en cas de caractéristiques exceptionnelles comme un balcon, une belle vue ou des travaux récents.Les dérogations sont nombreuses et beaucoup de propriétaires s'engouffrent dans la brèche. Après la signature du bail, le locataire a trois mois pour poser un recours s'il juge son loyer trop élevé.  " Encadrement des loyers - 01.08.2015 Le détermine les conditions de mise en œuvre du système d'encadrement des loyers. L'entrée en vigueur de ces dispositions suppose la publication d'un arrêté fixant les montant des loyers de références applicables localement. Dans l'attente de la sortie des arrêtés dans les villes concernées (hors Paris où l'arrêté a été pris), les informations contenues dans cette page restent d'actualité. Source:

On 18 April 2015, before the current refugee crisis began, the Iranian PressTV News service that "Syrian Prime Minister Wael al-Halqi has called on the Syrians forced to flee to neighbouring countries due to the ongoing conflict in the Arab country to return home."

The report continued:

"He said Syria is home to all Syrians and that the government is ready to embrace all the displaced citizens and provide decent residence to them. Earlier this month, the UN Refugee Agency warned about the dire situation of the Syrian refugees abroad especially in Jordan, saying the Syrian exiles are facing recruitment as child soldiers, sexual violence, and exploitation for labour. The report released by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) on August 6 said a large number of child refugees are deprived of schooling and vulnerable to be recruited by armed groups that aim to take them back to fight in Syria. The world body noted that the threat is not limited to children and adults are also prey to such recruitment, while all refugees, including youngsters, are being forced into labour. The UNHCR also warned about domestic and sexual violence as a particular danger for refugee women and children. The report said both organized crime networks and Syrian opposition groups operate in camps in order to pursue their financial and political objectives. It further warned that lawlessness and high criminality in the camps are driving refugees back home."

Since then hundreds have drowned on crowded ships in the Mediterranean and more than 71 have perished inside trucks in Austria. In response hundreds of pro-refugee activists have protested in Germany and Austria to demand their governments admit more refugees. Strangely, as far as I can tell, none of those ostensible humanitarians protesting for Syrian refugees have expressed any opposition to the current war against Syria.

Many other ordinary Europeans are rightly concerned at the prospect of hundreds of thousands more refugees and economic migrants settling in their country. So, demonstrations against the offering of asylum to large numbers of refugees have also occurred. The participation in these protests of far-right-wingers and even neo-Nazis has been used by pro-refugee activists and the mainstream newsmedia to discredit those protests.

Fleeing from danger, refugees cannot help solve Syria's crisis. It can only make it all the more difficult for those Syrians remaining behind to defend their country. Inevitably, by fleeing to the very countries whose governments are openly complicit in the war against Syria, including and Great Britain, the Western mainstream newsmedia will spin the flight of so many refugees to reinforce their narrative that the Syrian government is a brutal dictatorship thereby providing more justification for their ongoing proxy terrorist war against Syria or even direct military aggression as, for example, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott indicated he was willing to do by conducting Air raids into Syria, ostensibly to bomb ISIS.

The inevitable chaos caused by such large influxes will make it easier for the elites of those countries to continue to rule against the best interests of the majority of these countries' inhabitants. This would included the conducting of further wars against people in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia.

Little of the coverage, even from normally truthful and informative alternative newsmedia sources, is of much use. Nearly all try to pull at the heartstrings of readers in order to persuade them to support the right of refugees to enter Europe without proposing any workable solution to the crisis.

The small number of articles which address the real issues at stake include: (31/8/15) | Global Research/Oriental Review, (1/9/15) | RT - CrossTalk,

Other, less helpful, articles include: (31/8/15) | RT, (28/8/15) | Sputnik, (31/8/15) | PressTV, (1/9/15) | PressTV, (29/8/15) | PressTV, (14/8/15), (22/8/15) | RT, (1/9/15) | RT, (31/8/15) by Binoy Kampmark | Global Research, (31/8/15) by Stephen Lendman | Global Research, (26/8/15) | RT, (/9/15) | Sputnik, (25/8/15) | Sputnik, (26/8/15) | Sputnik.

Hi again Nimby. So, it sounds as if you got a quite half-baked response. The sort of slurry, half-thought out response you might get from a drunk on his way to the pub in response to a reasonable question, like, "Before you head off, could you tell me what have you done with the rent money? In case I am not making myself clear, I mean that our ministers and public servants seem to have given up on rational dialogue with citizens. I rarely bother to try to communicate with these ne'er do wells, but recently I wrote a careful complaint to SBS and a specific inquiry to Julie Bishop, Min for Foreign Affairs and Trade, about a reference she had used which did not actually reference what she said. I received neither acknowledgement nor response. The government is out to lunch, discussing mad projects like bombing Syria to 'stop' the refugee outflow, for instance. They are like drunks blaming everyone else but themselves for the mess they are making.

Sheila, not the answer was NOT one line, but actually said very little, and referred me to the above DEWLP web page. According to the letter, migrants arrive where there are jobs, opportunities and amenities. and government has the job of planning for the growth! It's assumed their hands are tied, and they are not implementing the growth. or have any part in promoting it. The government, they claim, is meant to provide infrastructure and housing to manage the growth, but this is failing now, and will be unlikely to be able to cope in the future. They are passing the buck, and not claiming responsibility. Why continue with the facade of providing "affordable housing" when it isn't? As for jobs and amenities, we are facing high youth unemployment, and there are few amenities in fringe suburbs already. They just get the generic "population growth" letter from their files, print it, without directly addressing or responding to concerns, taking responsibility, or admitting to the contradictions.

AUSTRALIA FIRST PARTY Happy Wattle Day to all fairdinkum Australians. In this epoch of unchecked decline for Aussies, in Wattle Day, 1st September, there is the great legacy of an inheritance which is uniquely Australian, and which needs to be reclaimed as an essence of our Australian culture. From our earlier generations, the call was made to "all citizens to foster, protect and cherish the Wattle; for a sacred charge to every Australian to plant it in all parks, reserves, and pleasure grounds and also private gardens, that it might become a source of pilgrimage in blossom time. Also to rouse the young people's sense of chivalry, and make the Wattle synonymous with Australia's honour." and "To the Native Australian the wattle stands for home, country, kindred, sunshine and love - every instinct that the heart deeply enshrines". and "the golden fleece - the wool; the golden green - the wheat; the golden sunshine - the golden hearts of the Australian people", was the theme suggested from the Golden Wattle TO PARTICIPATE:- Wear a sprig of Wattle; plant a Wattle shrub in your garden; rub hands on the bark of a Wattle tree, and reflect on the unique eco-diversity of our Southern Land; read some verse of The Banjo or Henry Lawson; play a few Larrikins songs; dwell on our cultural heritage with thanks to our earlier generations.

I find that I can keep my head above water time-wise by buying in bulk the food for my dog and cat and for myself, my husband and child. A silo of dry food under the stairway means I virtually never have to think about pet nutrition. My weekly shop for the family consists of an overflowing trolley of frozen pre-prepared temptations. It takes less than 10 minutes from entry from work through the front door to the food for us being on our laps as we zone out in front of the ABC news. Convenience food for all of us means we can keep up with our busy schedules. I feel confident that all that we need is contained within those packages. I don't have to think. Furthermore, neither the dog nor the cat are complaining as they've never eaten anything else. For our family, it's a case of "Hang the expense, this is a quality of life issue!"

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