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Debt and interest
Turkish policy encourages IS and refugees like Aylan al-Kurdi
The UN should be condemning illegal wars, not moving people
Creation of debt, not interest is the problem
Who should foot war and refugee costs?
Here's the refugee fix: Eu proposes 1b Euros to Turkey
Refugee camps ran out of funding as well
Interest - a tax that can't be avoided
Evidence of demographic war?
The floodgates wide open to Europe
Australian debt-slavery and overpopulation
Wage slavery is being perpetrated against australians by corrupt Lieberal Governments
Yemen gives cowardly Saudis more than they bargained for
Vo Nguyen Giap: JFK planned to end war against Vietnam in 1964
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J-D,
If what you say about President John F. Kennedy is true, then clearly I am wrong to liken Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, to JFK, however ...
J-D wrote on September 17th, 2015 at 15:34 :
[JFK] increased US military involvement in Vietnam [and] offered covert assistance to the 1963 coup against the Vietnamese government.
General Vo Nguyen Giap (1911 - 2013) who led the Vietnamese armies to victory over the French at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 and to victory over the United States in 1975 acknowledged that President John F. Kennedy intended to end the Vietnam War in 1964 after he was re-elected. However, as we know, JFK was murdered on 22 November 1963, after which his successor, LBJ escalated the war against Vietnam and several millions more Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians died.
These were amongst the reasons for which the Military Industrial Complex killed JFK - or do you think that he was killed by a lone solitary gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald?
Verdict on MSM's Syria 'reporting' from court of public debate
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J-D,
As I have acknowledged, on one occasion of which I am aware, since March 2001, that is, when Rupert Murdoch's Australian reported about Mother Agnes Mariam, we learnt from that MSM outlet some of the truth about Syria. On every other occasion, the MSM has misinformed its readers, viewers and listening audience, about the Syrian conflict. In the court of reasoned public debate and not the 'law court' in which you would prefer the case to be heard, my case would win hands down.
Syrian govt account concealed from Australians since March 2011
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A critical point, missed by J-D, is that, until Dr Bouthaina Shaaban appeared on Lateline last night, I know of not one instance 1 where a single representative of the Syrian government, or, indeed, anyone prepared to argue its case, for example Australians for Mussalaha (Reconciliation) In Syria (AMRIS), was ever given a chance to do so on Australia's mainstream media outlets, since the war began four and a half year ago in March 2011. If J-D, or anyone else, knows of one instance, then please let us know.
For anyone who is knowledgeable about the conflict in Syria, the reason is obvious. Nearly every 'report' about Syria in our MSM was a fabrication and would have been quickly shown up as such by groups such as AMRIS or any representative of the Syrian government. The whole tissue of lies created by the ABC, SBS, the Fairfax media, NineMSN, etc. - that Bashar al-Assad was a corrupt and hated mass murderer, had used chemical weapons against his people, had dropped 'barrel bombs' on schools, hospitals, etc. - would have been torn to shreds had any one of those claims been put to AMRIS, or any representative of the Syrian government, as it was on Lateline last night.
Footnote[s]
1. ↑ An exception was when Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, for a short while, gave coverage to the efforts, on behalf of Syria, of Lebanese Carmelite nun Mother Agnes Mariam, but that was quickly forgotten.
Multiculturalism is a misnomer
Environmental culture
Multiculturalism is a cover
"Jumping through hoops" or informing oneself about Syria?
Julie Thomas, what J-D calls "jumping through hoops" is no more than what I would have thought that anyone, who is not already properly informed about the conflict in Syria, and wants to become properly informed, would do.
It has been argued (here or elsewhere) that, because the interviewers were from media sources, including RT, already sympathetic to President al-Assad, the questions put were not too probing. I, nevertheless, thought that the questions were good and that the answers helped shed more light on the Syrian conflict.
However on other occasions, President al-Assad has faced lengthy interviews from other interviewers clearly hostile to him, including 56 minutes with Charlie Rose of 60 minutes and 26 minutes with the BBC (9/2/15) (see embedded video below). On both occasions, he has acquitted himself well. I have never seen President Obama, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton, Francois Hollande, David Cameron or Tony Abbott face anything like a similar amount of public scrutiny. If they had, they would have been cut to ribbons.
Roo carers take joey to DSE due to no safe place to release
Video of interview with Bashar Al-Assad found on RT
Thanks Megan,
Just briefly for now: The Guardian article by Frankie Boyle is Cameron won't take refugees who have reached Europe - like there's a humanitarian offside rule.
The other article, which includes the 40 minute video of the interview of President Bashar al-Assad played earlier on RT On Air, is 'West crying for refugees with one eye, aiming gun with the other'- Assad (FULL INTERVIEW). It includes the full transcript off the interview.
Australian cultures
The West should involve Syria's President Bashar al-Assad
Q and A panel doesn't measure up to Julian Assange's ankles
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Those who sat through ABC's Q and A on Monday night and its circuitous and incoherent 'discussion' about current geopolitics including Syria – "the Assad 'regime' has killed seven times as many Syrians as ISIS", disproven allegations that the Syrian government had used chemical weapons presented as fact, etc., etc. ad nauseum – will be pleasantly surprised to hear heroic Australian Julian Assange speak about his new book 'the WikiLeaks Files' – I have bought the last copy from my local bookstore – and his insight into geopolitical issues including Syria, in which perhaps as many as 250,000 Syrians have died as a result of the terrorist invasion since March 2011.
The Australian government, previously complicit in the invasion of Libya and a direct participant in past illegal wars against Iraq and Afghanistan, has also colluded in the terrorist war against Syria. On Tuesday 29 May 2013, Foreign Minister Bob Carr expelled the Syrian ambassador and increased sanctions against Syria. Bob Carr's pretext was the claim that the Syrian government had murdered 108 of its own citizens at Houla on 25 May 2014. Bob Carr never asked the Syrian Ambassador for his own government's account of the massacre. Evidence has since emerged that those killed lived in a region that was a stronghold of government supporters. The Houla massacre, like almost countless other massacres of civilians was perpetrated, before and since, by the terrorist opposition to the Syrian Government.
Afshin Rattansi goes underground ... (see above)
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Is a national culture just a collection of propositions?
The refugee crisis is now a migration crisis
Last year President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela warned against the acts of “the imperialist powers” to disrupt stability in Syria and the countries of the Middle East region. The Venezuelan President referred to an article written by former Cuban President Fidel Castro in which the latter cautioned against the U.S.-Western attempts to destabilize the entire region by means of employing Takfiri terrorist organizations.
This month, Cuba and Syria both reaffirmed their commitment to continue strengthening the bilateral solidarity, friendship and cooperation ties that were established 50 years ago by Cuban Revolution leader Fidel Castro and then Syrian President Hafiz al-Assad.
Syrian and Cuban peoples' ties have historical and joint fight roots, and that is why Syria was one of the first nations to recognize the Cuban Revolution and establish diplomatic relations with the Caribbean country.
A pattern of dislocation has been rising steadily since the wars of regime change in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Libya and Nigeria from 2001 until the present. When the U.S. and its NATO allies went to war against the Taliban government in Afghanistan they claimed that it was designed to end “terrorism” and ensure stability in Central Asia. CIA officers, based in Turkey, were not to supply arms ("the Obama administration has said it is not providing arms to the rebels"), but rather to “help” those supplying arms “decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms.” The supply of arms to Syrian rebels by the US and Saudi Arabia is a well-established fact.
Islamic fundamentalists represent the greatest danger to those modernising secular governments in the Islamic world that want to pursue an independent course of economic development. The US’s policies frequently lead to Islamic fundamentalists prospering as the most powerful and well-organised political movements.
So far this year, nearly 400,000 migrants, many of them refugees, have crossed the Mediterranean, with many more expected. The CIA spent US$1 billion ($1.4 billion) to fund early efforts to unseat Assad. Others have argued that no one could have foreseen the magnitude of the war in Syria.
Ron Paul: Migrant Crisis Caused By U.S. Interventionism And Support Of ISIS, Al Qaeda (10/9/15) | HNGN
Rather than a "refugee crisis", it's now a "migration crisis". The doors to Europe have been flung opened, and the flood of migration has been let lose. It's assumed that the war in Syria, and displacement, is somehow inevitable, and the UN keep dissolving national borders and sovereignties instead of actually preventing interventions, and the mitigating factors causing refugees.
Safety Beach Victoria
Sense of proportion about terrorist 'threat' faced by Australia
In the above interview the retired General Peter Gration has shown a sense of proportion almost totally lacking in the coverage by the mainstream newsmedia:
DAVID MARK: The Government might take issue with you about that issue of whether the IS poses any direct threat to Australia; they might argue that it does.
PETER GRATION: Yeah, I'm aware of that. What I think they're talking about is that IS will urge Muslims in Australia to carry out more terrorist acts, but the scale and the likely outcome of that is minute compared to the effort that we are contemplating putting into Syria.
Even much of the anti-war alternative newsmedia is barking up the wrong tree when it warns of 'blowback' by Muslims in our midst supposedly as a result of their grievance at wars that have been waged against their own countries.
At the very worst such terrorist acts in Australia would still only cause the deaths of a tiny fraction of those many hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen and Somalia since 1990. Terrorist actions that have already occurred in Australia, whether or not they were staged with the help of intelligence agencies as appears to be the case with the Martin Place massacre, have only harmed the anti-war movement.
Whilst a small number of ordinary Australians could fall victim to an increase of terrorism, members of Australia's elite are very unlikely to find themselves in harm's way. Furthermore, they can be expected to use terrorism as an excuse to attack our civil liberties and to conduct more wars against the countries on whose behalf the terrorists are supposedly acting.
Wargames by psychopathic elite against Syria and Yemen
Unknown bomb from Australia's Saudi allies in Yemen
The Saudi-led forces are using the most deadly US-Nato Weapons that are being tested now on the Yemeni People as the new laboratory as is Gaza. Watch and share. No news at all on CNN-Jazeera-BBC.
No protests from the so-called Ummah ..... not a voice of dissent, its just horrendous.
Can ANYONE say what on earth this bomb is??
https://www.facebook.com/mohamad.shami.33/videos/10153085370107217/?pnref=story
Saudi Arabia has been bombing Yemen (a very poor country to its south between it and the sea) into oblivion, but we hear nothing of this from our Primeminister, our foreign minister, or our NATO US 'allies' which include the brutal and oppressive murderous Saudi regime.
Other bombs they have dropped here:
No sustainable "harvest" of wildlife
Journalists advocating Assad's removal need to account
Having just read David Macilwain's remarks on and transcript of this interview, published here: "With 'friends' like ABC's Liz Jackson, Syria does not need enemies to keep those refugees flowing". Whilst Liz Jackson is not the only party in the ABC who is guilty of not interviewing the other side of which representatives here and overseas are not lacking (e.g. try interviewing Bashar al-Assad or people in Syria or Australians for Reconciliation in Syria, who, at least, were interviewed recently on Golburn Regional ABC), she, along with all the others who promote US wars with such enthusiasm, should be held to account by the Australian public.
The most notable question to ask such irresponsible interviewers is, What gives you the right to deny Syrians their elected representative? If the world ever succeeds in establishing an effective war crimes tribunal, there will be a lot of Australian journalists called to explain themselves. See "Why do even some of those opposed to war with Syria repeat media lies against its democratically elected President?".
Another biased interview on ABC re Syria
'Children' as in Lord of the Flies
The children seem to be in charge
Stronghold in Syria
America’s Phony War on the ISIS.
America's Phony War on the ISIS. Washington Recruits, Arms, Funds, Trains and Directs the "Islamic State" Terrorists (11/9/15) by Stephen Lendman | Global Research
On September 10, 2014, Obama lied claiming his intent “to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL" – adding "these terrorists could pose a growing threat beyond that region, including to the United States."
He willfully misled the US public saying he “ordered our military to take targeted action against ISIL to stop its advances…These strikes…helped save the lives of thousands of innocent men, women and children."
Washington recruits, arms, funds, trains, and directs them the same way it used Mujahideen fighters in the 1980s against Soviet Russia in Afghanistan, as well as Al Qaeda and other likeminded takfiri groups today.
They serve US imperial interests, used against independent governments Washington wants toppled – replaced by subservient puppet regimes. Terror bombing Iraqi and Syrian targets has nothing to do with degrading and defeating them – everything to do with destroying vital infrastructure in both countries, balkanizing them for easier control and ousting Assad.
Report of Russian military intervention in Syria fabricated
According to RT recent articles saying that Putin is going to send in militia to help Syria are without source and have not been confirmed by Russia. "An unsourced story originating on an Israeli website claimed Russia was about to deploy significant military assistance to Syria to fight Islamic State. This set the media aflame and had Washington issuing warnings. The story was not only unsourced, but also untrue. But it did reveal how the West frames its illegal war against Syria." The debate below involes Eric Draitser, Danny Makki and Fawaz Gerges on the show Crosstalk.
Russia ready to accept Syrian refugees - ombudsman
Original source of this article was http://www.rt.com/politics/314809-russia-ready-to-accept-syrian/The Russian Federation can host a great number of refugees from Syria, just as it has accepted a record number of people who fled the war in Ukraine, claims the presidential advocate for children’s rights, Pavel Astakhov.
“Our territory, our culture and our history, even our social situation are actually capable of withstanding this,” the ombudsman told the RSN radio when asked if Russia could open the doors for refugees from Syria.
“After the beginning of the Donbass conflict we were ready to accept all Ukrainian orphans and there were about 90,500 of them at that moment,” Astakhov added. “We were ready to accept them all, we have resources and potential for this.”
The official also emphasized that refugees in Russia must not forever remain dependent from social programs, but must become responsible members of the society.
“Today we have a different category of refugees, they are not desperate, starving, poor and unemployed people. No, they are mostly people with average income who primarily seek peace. They need conditions for work and education and European governments must apply effort to this,” Astakhov told journalists. “We also could carry out such program or render help if there is a desire for this,” he added.
READ MORE: Russia accepted over 1mn Ukrainian refugees forced out of homes by Donbass war
The head of the Federal Migration Service, Konstantin Romodanovsky, told TASS on Wednesday that Russia is ready to accept refugees from Syria on condition that they violate no laws.
He added that Russian authorities were studying asylum applications from Syrian citizens and rendered help to these people, but noted that “historically European countries are more appropriate as refuge for Syrians than the Russian Federation.”
According to Romodanovsky, 182 Syrian citizens used Russia as a transit zone when they traveled to Europe in 2015. “They observed all the rules and we have no claims against these people,” he noted.
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According to UN reports the number of refugees who moved to Europe from Syria in 2015 reached over 366,000 and specialists forecast that by the end of 2016 the total number of migrants from the Middle East and Africa in Europe can reach 850,000.
READ MORE: ‘West creates refugees by destroying Islamic nations’ – Chechen leader
In late August, the head of Russia’s Federal Migration Service told reporters that over 1 million people arrived to the country from southeast Ukraine since the beginning of the armed conflict and about 600,000 of them decided never to return home. Of this number 114,000 took part in the government program of resettlement and received material aid and a short track in getting Russian citizenship.
In mid-June this year the UN High Commissioner for Refugees said that in 2014 the influx of Ukrainian citizens seeking refuge on Russian territory put the Russian Federation in first place in the world by number of asylum applications.
The report also stated that in 2014 Ukraine surpassed the previous years’ leader, Syria, by number of people who wanted to flee their homeland.
Australia's illegal war is against the people of Syria
This has been posted to a discussion on Syria on JohnQuiggin.com
I note that you have yet to provide even one source to substantiate your own views on the Syrian conflict.
Presumably, I was right to say that you are arguing that the video that I linked to on September 4th, 2015 at 02:16 on the "Monday Message Board" of 24 August 2015, and innumerable others like that video were staged and that many thousands of very good actors were hired to stage those videos. Presumably you also think that the many more Syrians, whom we are told by the MSM, oppose President al-Assad have been hidden away from the view of all the local and international journalists who recorded those scenes.
J-D on September 11th, 2015 at 16:55 wrote:
... you trust the five international observers because when they made their claims they were not contradicted on the spot by their audience of journalists.
You are attempting to make my views seem crude and simplistic in order to be able to parody them. What I wrote on September 11th, 2015 at 01:26 was:
If the mainstream media claims about Syria were true, then what those observers told the press conference must have been a pack of lies. Any competent journalist would have had no trouble in tearing to shreds the claims made by those observers. The fact that none of the observers' claims were challenged shows me that either :
1. The journalists, who had been reporting elsewhere that Bashar al-Assad was a brutal mass murderer, were grossly negligent in not having put that to the observers, or
2. Those journalists knew that the 'reports' they had written about Syria were untrue and that they would be shown up for the liars that they were if they had attempted to present that narrative to the press conference.
Given that the Syrian conflict was so much the focus of the news at the time, how do you explain the complete failure of the media outlets that had so demonised President Bashar al-Assad to even utter a word at that media conference, let alone report it?
The Syrian Girl video: #RefugeeCrisis: What the media Is hiding
This comment has also bee posted to JohnQuiggin.com and Online Opinion. Below is of the start the transcript of the above 13:24 minute video "#RefugeeCrisis: What The Media Is Hiding, Help #SyrianRefugees Go Home" by Mimi al Laham, also known as "the Syrian Girl".
This is Syrian Girl. The media's Painting the refugee crisis as an acuteissue, but the Syrian war and refugees had been there for four years and Aylan [Kurdi] wasn't the first child refugee to drown. Last month an eleven year Syrian girl old drowned off the coast of Egypt. So, why is there such a media push now? Well, it's just in time for when France, Britain and Australia were asked to join the US's war on Syria. In fact, the US asked Australia to join his coalition a week before Aylan died. So, they're using sympathy for this child's death to drop bombs on more children while crying crocodile tears over them as they run from those bombs.
Just look at this headline from the Sun: "BOMB SYRIA" "FOR AYLAN". You'd think they'd make themselves less obvious. This is the city that Aylan comes from. The area was blown to smithereens by the US. Rupert Murdoch couldn't even wait for Aylan's body to go cold before he started exploiting it for more war on Syria. ...
Syria comment - Australia First Party facebook
If the mainstream media claims about Syria were true ...
This comment has also been posted to the JohnQuiggin.Com forum web-site.
J-D wrote on September 4th, 2015 at 09:54 on the (now closed) Monday Message Board of 24 Aug 2015 :
Why do you trust this source?
J-D wrote on September 10th, 2015 at 14:56 :
In the closed Monday Message Board I asked you 'Why do you trust this source?' and you responded 'Which source?'
I was asking about the only source mentioned in the only comment of yours that I linked to.
I had not realised that you had linked to the post you were referring to. I am not in the habit of linking to other posts as I prefer to use the one link allowed by the forum software for JohnQuiggin _dot_ com to link to other sites, usually my own.
I trust that video, because it is consistent with everything else I know about Syria. Of course, I cannot know for certain that the whole video, including crowds of supporters of President Bashar al-Assad, was not staged, but, if it was, the actors they must have hired seem to have done an extremely good job. So too, must all the many thousands of other actors in the almost innumerable other videos now available which show hundreds, if not many thousands of Syrians greeting President Bashar al-Assad wherever he goes in Syria.
J-D wrote on September 10th, 2015 at 14:56 :
And now I will ask you a separate question: Why do you trust those five international observers?
If the mainstream media claims about Syria were true, then what those observers told the press conference must have been a pack of lies. Any competent journalist would have had no trouble in tearing to shreds the claims made by those observers. The fact that none of the observers' claims were challenged shows me that either :
1. The journalists, who had been reporting elsewhere that Bashar al-Assad was a brutal mass murderer, were grossly negligent in not having put that to the observers, or
2. Those journalists knew that the 'reports' they had written about Syria were untrue and that they would be shown up for the liars that they were if they had attempted to present that narrative to the press conference.
Why Europe?
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Editorial comment
Turkey allows smuggling in broad daylight, sells lifejackets
The reports on CNN by Ivan Watson, from Izmir Turkey.
It's all happening right there in broad daylight.
Shops are selling Life-Jackets to the Refugees, who are waiting out there in the open.
The going rates are $1300/- USD.
Then the refugees are taken to boats from the Izmir port and from there to the Greek Islands
It's all being micro managed and overseen by Turkish Intel beyond doubt.
This is not some surreptitious smuggling operation. It's happening in broad daylight wth tv crews interviewing the refugees in Izmir.
Photos taken from TV set below:
EU should ‘undermine national homogeneity’ - UN migration chief
Superficial media coverage
Why Murdoch Pushes for War
Claude Pupkin, CEO of Genie Oil and Gas, commented, “Genie’s success will ultimately depend, in part, on access to the expertise of the oil and gas industry and to the financial markets. Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch are extremely well regarded by and connected to leaders in these sectors. Their guidance and participation will prove invaluable.” “I am grateful to Howard Jonas and IDT for the opportunity to invest in this important initiative,” Lord Rothschild said. “Rupert Murdoch’s extraordinary achievements speak for themselves and we are very pleased he has agreed to be our partner. Genie Energy is making good technological progress to tap the world’s substantial oil shale deposits which could transform the future prospects of Israel, the Middle East and our allies around the world.”For Israel to seek to exploit mineral reserves in the occupied Golan Heights is plainly illegal in international law. Japan was succesfully sued by Singapore before the International Court of Justice for exploitation of Singapore’s oil resources during the second world war. The argument has been made in international law that an occupying power is entitled to opeate oil wells which were previously functioning and operated by the sovereign power, in whose position the occupying power now stands. But there is absolutely no disagreement in the authorities and case law that the drilling of new wells – let alone fracking – by an occupying power is illegal. Israel tried to make the same move twenty years ago but was forced to back down after a strong reaction from the Syrian government, which gained diplomatic support from the United States. Israel is now seeking to take advantage of the weakened Syrian state; this move perhaps casts a new light on recent Israeli bombings in Syria. In a rational world, the involvement of Rothschild and Murdoch in this international criminal activity would show them not to be fit and proper persons to hold major commercial interests elsewhere, and action would be taken. Naturally, nothing of the kind will happen. The following was a comment on the original site of publication of the above. Its all interlinked with US Vanguard Group inc. Dick Cheney was also a member of Genie Energy Corporation Strategic Advisory Board. Dick Cheney (Halliburton), had close to $85 million invested in the Vanguard Group. Rupert Murdoch is Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of News Corp. Vanguard Group Inc held 85,939,439 shares on 12/31/2012 worth $2,192,315,109 in News Corp. John Kerrys wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, has over $3,500,001 stake in General Electric Co. Biggest stakeholder in General Electric Co is Vanguard Group: Jul 30, 2012 The board of directors of General Electric Co. has elected John J. Brennan as an independent member of the company’s board of directors. Brennan is chairman emeritus and a senior advisor of The Vanguard Group Inc. Vangaurd got Investments in every going concern. Raytheon, for example #5 15,664,626 $920,923,362 This from 2013: ‘Raytheon stock nears all-time high amid news of possible cruise-missile strike in Syria Stock shares of perennial defense contracting powerhouse Raytheon hit nearly $77 apiece Tuesday as news of a possible US strike in Syria intensified. The US has said if it strikes Syrian government targets for alleged use of chemical weapons, it would likely use Tomahawk cruise missiles from warships positioned in the Mediterranean. Raytheon is responsible for making and selling the bulk of the long-range, subsonic missiles to the US government.’ John Kerry spouse, Teresa Heinz Kerry, holdings. 3. Raytheon Co. $960,010 – $2,200,000 • Raytheon Co. received $11,662,797,975 in government contracts for fiscal year 2007, including a total of approx. $10 billion from the Army, Navy, and Air Force. US goes to war, they the politicians get return on investments from the very instruments that do the killing. That’s how the game works.
Turkey is organising illegal migrant flood to Europe in busloads
Rhetoric against Assad heating up
Helping, instead of hindering, Syria
Le Pen may be right
Syrians take French FM Fabius to court for 'encouraging' al-Nusr
Previously published (7/9/15) on www.english.rfi.fr
Relations of victims of jihadist groups in Syria took the French government to court on Monday, accusing Foreign Affairs Minister Laurent Fabius of encouraging violence in their country by praising the al-Qaida affiliate, the al-Nusra Front.
The case went to a Paris appeal court on Monday, a lower court having declared itself incompetent to hear it because it concerned France's foreign policy.
The plaintiffs, all Syrians, claim that several statements by Fabius stoked the Syrian conflict in 2012.
Among them was a declaration, made during a visit to a refugee camp in August, that "Bashar al-Assad doesn't deserve to be on this earth."
They also cite a quotation in Le Monde newspaper when Fabius reported that the Syrian opposition coalition and "all the Arabs" opposed the US decision to put al-Nusra on its terrorist list because "they are doing a good job on the ground".
Legal officials on Monday asked the appeal court to endorse the lower court's decision on the grounds that the statements concerned French foreign policy and could not be taken out of that context.
For the plaintiffs' lawyer, Damien Viguier, they were "stirring up civil war" and "personal misconduct distinct from the government's policy".
They want Fabius condemned for "provocation to commit mass crimes" and want a symbolic euro in compensation.
A similar case brought before the Court of Justice of the Republic, which judges accusations by ministers while there in office, was closed in January 2014.
UN not uniting nations
Time to get back into the real world
Order of the Wattle Blossom
Nationhood should not be based on propositions
Population, GDP and productivity
Australian government set to give go ahead to bomb Syria
Low wages and population growth no panacea
Even if GDP was to grow as a result of population growth, this would not imply any real improvement to the state of the economy - much less any increase in the standard of living or quality of life of most Australians. Bigger is not the same as better.
The fact that GDP is flat 1 despite mass immigration says that the economy is really in deep trouble. But this should come as no surprise.
The Coalition (and Labor to a large extent) have yet to come to terms with the fact that low wage conditions represent a useful phase in the development of an economy, but that Australia is well past that stage. Most of the Western world is past that stage. Japan is past it and within a decade or so, China will probably be past it.
In the event that free trade remains the dominant paradigm for international business in coming years, the only way that advanced Western nations can maintain their wealth is by using technology to boost productivity. Expecting employees to work for longer or for less money is short sighted and will not deliver the required increases in productivity. Furthermore, it robs consumers of the purchasing power necessary to stimulate demand. Nevertheless, this is still the preferred approach of most Australian business lobby groups, including the Liberal Party.
Thirty years ago, a great Australian by the name of Allan Richard Jones (not to be confused with the corporate sock puppet on Sydney radio) founded the National Technocrat Party, which argued for appropriate technological development and radical reform of our money system. Had the policies of the NTP been adopted at that time, Australia would be riding a wave of sustainable productivity now that would be the envy of the world.
It's not too late to look at such policy ideas again.
Footnote[s]
1. ↑ Of course, claims, that productivity, in a population with rapidly growing population, is increasing, are ludicrous. But, in my opinion, even those measures of economic performance which show per capita GDB to be flat as a result of population growth and immigration, are wrong. Given all the chaos and disruption caused by high immigration, I would expect an accurate measure of the productivity of the real economy to show not just a flat line, but a significant loss of overall productivity. - Ed
When people become a people
Australia has no right to fight in Syria without its consent
The following was posted to JohnQuiggin.com. I am advised, as of 12:45AM on Saturday 5 September 2015 that this comment is awaiting moderation. 1
J-D asked in response to my earlier two posts:
Why do you trust this source?
What source? To which of my two posts are you referrring?
Had you looked at the article linked to in the second of my above posts, you would have noticed in one of the footnotes, a link to a story of a press conference which ocurred on 19th June 2014 at the United Nations headquarters in New York. That story includes a 53 minute embedded video of the press conference. At that press conference, five independent observers attested to the fairness of the Presidential election which had been conducted on 4 June 2014. At that election 88.7% of the 73.42% of eligible Syrian voters who voted, voted for President Bashar al-Assad.
Given the proxy war that was going on at the time, and which is continuing to this day, and the obstruction, by countries like Australia and France, of expatriate Syrians who wanted to vote, I would say that that was a most impressive result and one which totally refutes the lie from the mainstream newsmedia that President Bashar al-Assad is corrupt and brutal tyrant. Strikingly, not one of 'reporters' from Australia or elsewhere, who had been pushing that narrative before and since, bothered to show up to that press conference to challenge the testimony of the election observers.
The fact is since March 2011 Syria has faced invasion by sociopath killers from almost every corner of the globe. These sociopaths have been paid for and armed by the United States France, the UK and their regional allies including Israel, Turkey, Jordan and the dictatorships of Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
The cost borne by the people of Syria is terrible - over 220,000 dead by one estimate, but in spite of the terrible cost, the Army and the people of Syria have stood by their government against the invaders.
The people of Syria have seen what happened to neighbouring Iraq as a result of two illegal wars since 1990 and economic sanctions in which Australia shamefully participated, and are resolved not to let the same happen to them. According to Ramsey Clark, who was Attornery General of the United States under President Johnson in the 1960s, as many as 3,300,000 Iraqis may have died as a result. A 13 minute of a talk by Ramsey Clarke can be found here.
Fortunately, voices, which are demanding that the decision by Tony Abbott for Australia to participate in the war against the people of Syria be debated in Parliament, are starting to be heard. One of those people is retired Army General Peter Gration.
Footnote[s]
1. ↑ Why this is the case is unclear to me. All of my previous posts to JohnQuiggin.com, except where I may have inadvertently included more than one link, have been immediately published. Usually only posts with more than one HTML link are moderated by Professor Quiggin. The copy I posted there had only one link which linked back to this post.
They dig the hole deeper, without admitting limits to growth
Syrian accuses West of causing refugee flight
Lowy institute propaganda for war
Last push to ban kangaroo imports in California NOW
Dear Friends
The kangaroo industry's bill to permanently lift the ban on kangaroo imports has been introduced to the Californian legislature.
Lobbying is furious with a countdown to a vote imminent right now.
We need your help to push this over the line and ensure protection for kangaroos.
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MEDIA
Australia
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Senator Lee Rhiannon, Media Release 31 Aug 2015: http://lee-rhiannon.greensmps.
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Brietbart News Network, 2 Sept 2015: http://www.breitbart.com/
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Sydney Morning Herald, 3 Sept 2015 http://www.smh.com.au/
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ABC Radio National Breakfast, 2 Sept 2015: http://www.abc.net.au/
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ABC Rural, 27 Aug 2015: http://www.abc.net.au/news/
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ABC Rural, 26 Aug 2015: http://www.abc.net.au/news/
2015-08-26/kangaroo-ban-kelly- bergen-scott/6726058
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Sierra Club, https://secure.sierraclub.org/
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Sacramento Bee, 1 Sept 2015 Editorial: http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/
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Sacramento Bee, 1 Sept 2015: http://www.sacbee.com/news/
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Sacramento Bee, 1 Sept 2015: http://www.sacbee.com/news/
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Sacramento Bee, 10 June 2015: Opinion: http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/
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LA Times, 1 Sept 2015: http://www.latimes.com/local/
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LA Times, 28 Aug 2015: http://www.latimes.com/local/
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LA Times, 11 June 2015: http://www.latimes.com/local/
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News.com.au, 12 June 2015: http://www.news.com.au/world/
breaking-news/california- kangaroo-skin-battle-heats-up/ story-e6frfkui-1227393913112
Helen Bergen
Bathurst NSW Australia
Thank you, Helen Burgen, for your most interesting and helpful post, but could I ask you, and other contributors, in future, to use ordinary text editors, or else HTML editors which produce HTML which is less verbose and more intelligible than that contained in the earlier version of your post? Your post has been edited to move a large amount of unintelligible HTML. A file containing a copy of the above post, as it has been edited, is attached to the above article here and can be downloaded. Evidently, your earlier version of the above post was created with a commercial web page editor which produces HTML which is far more verbose than it need be. - Ed
ACF Council candidate Ian Penrose views on Population
Refugees simply a symptom of the modern, overcrowded world?
The EU is under tremendous pressure to absorb the number of displaced people, many of whom come from the Middle East, such as Syria, and from Africa. There's been little discussion on why, or how to end the misery and overflow! It's assumed that it's part of our modern world, inevitable, and unavoidable, and must be dealt with by absorbing the huge numbers into Europe.
With global population doubled since 1970, any disruption to peace and invasions, will cause massive spilling over of people. In the past there were always new countries, or colonies, to subdue and escape to, for a better life! Now, the world is full!
According to international law, the US cannot intervene in another country militarily or otherwise without the approval, without the cooperation and coordination of that country. They want to bomb ISIS, in Syria, but it has done it without the approval of the Security Council and in clear violation of the charter of the UN. Countries that have helped arming, funding, training and facilitating the work of ISIS are telling the world they are "fighting terrorism".
Australia has a long history of participating in Washington's criminal wars.
Don Rothwell, a professor of law at the Australian National University, told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that the government was considering action that would "radically adjust Australian doctrine."
The destruction that the US invasion wreaked on Iraq, followed by Washington's open stoking of civil war in Libya and Syria, has plunged the entire region into chaos, giving rise to phenomena such as ISIS, as well as the world’s worst refugee crisis. Despite the flows to Europe, the United States has welcomed few Syrian refugees to its shores. They have a miles-long asylum backlog, insufficient temporary relief, and laborious national security screening procedures that make sure terrorists are not slipping into the country keep refugee admissions to a minimum. Refugee families have changed the demographics of their host cities, such as Shelbyville, Tennessee; Lewiston, Maine; and Minneapolis, Minnesota, all of which have reported culture clashes between Muslims expecting everything from foot baths at public colleges to dietary concessions at public schools.
Read more at U.N. to dump flood of Muslim refugees on U.S. (15/9/14) | WND
Politicians and the press tend to use the first term, implying that the new arrivals are being pulled toward Europe in search of economic opportunities. The United Nations insists that the vast majority of the new arrivals are in fact refugees, people who are being pushed from their homelands due to persecution or conflict.
French law causes big falls in Paris rentals
Opening Europe's borders to refugees will not end Syrian crisis
On 18 April 2015, before the current refugee crisis began, the Iranian PressTV News service reported that "Syrian Prime Minister Wael al-Halqi has called on the Syrians forced to flee to neighbouring countries due to the ongoing conflict in the Arab country to return home."
The report continued:
"He said Syria is home to all Syrians and that the government is ready to embrace all the displaced citizens and provide decent residence to them. Earlier this month, the UN Refugee Agency warned about the dire situation of the Syrian refugees abroad especially in Jordan, saying the Syrian exiles are facing recruitment as child soldiers, sexual violence, and exploitation for labour. The report released by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) on August 6 said a large number of child refugees are deprived of schooling and vulnerable to be recruited by armed groups that aim to take them back to fight in Syria. The world body noted that the threat is not limited to children and adults are also prey to such recruitment, while all refugees, including youngsters, are being forced into labour. The UNHCR also warned about domestic and sexual violence as a particular danger for refugee women and children. The report said both organized crime networks and Syrian opposition groups operate in camps in order to pursue their financial and political objectives. It further warned that lawlessness and high criminality in the camps are driving refugees back home."
Since then hundreds have drowned on crowded ships in the Mediterranean and more than 71 have perished inside trucks in Austria. In response hundreds of pro-refugee activists have protested in Germany and Austria to demand their governments admit more refugees. Strangely, as far as I can tell, none of those ostensible humanitarians protesting for Syrian refugees have expressed any opposition to the current war against Syria.
Many other ordinary Europeans are rightly concerned at the prospect of hundreds of thousands more refugees and economic migrants settling in their country. So, demonstrations against the offering of asylum to large numbers of refugees have also occurred. The participation in these protests of far-right-wingers and even neo-Nazis has been used by pro-refugee activists and the mainstream newsmedia to discredit those protests.
Fleeing from danger, refugees cannot help solve Syria's crisis. It can only make it all the more difficult for those Syrians remaining behind to defend their country. Inevitably, by fleeing to the very countries whose governments are openly complicit in the war against Syria, including France and Great Britain, the Western mainstream newsmedia will spin the flight of so many refugees to reinforce their narrative that the Syrian government is a brutal dictatorship thereby providing more justification for their ongoing proxy terrorist war against Syria or even direct military aggression as, for example, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott indicated he was willing to do by conducting Air raids into Syria, ostensibly to bomb ISIS.
The inevitable chaos caused by such large influxes will make it easier for the elites of those countries to continue to rule against the best interests of the majority of these countries' inhabitants. This would included the conducting of further wars against people in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia.
Little of the coverage, even from normally truthful and informative alternative newsmedia sources, is of much use. Nearly all try to pull at the heartstrings of readers in order to persuade them to support the right of refugees to enter Europe without proposing any workable solution to the crisis.
The small number of articles which address the real issues at stake include: The Migrants' "Long March" across the Balkans to Western Europe (31/8/15) | Global Research/Oriental Review, Western-made refugee crisis (1/9/15) | RT - CrossTalk,
Other, less helpful, articles include: Australia tells Europe: Join ISIS strikes and you'll solve your migrant problems (31/8/15) | RT, Tolerating Refugees, Not Criticism: Protester Charged for Heckling (28/8/15) | Sputnik, Refugees arrive in Austria, final destination unknown (31/8/15) | PressTV, Tens of thousands march in Austria against abuse of refugees (1/9/15) | PressTV, UN chief calls for 'comprehensive' response to refugee crisis (29/8/15) | PressTV, Amnesty accuses Austria of violating refugees’ rights (14/8/15), 'Foreigners out!' 30+ police injured after clashes at anti-migrant demo in Germany (22/8/15) | RT, Hungary bans refugees from main railway station as hundreds attempt to ride Vienna train (1/9/15) | RT, Tales of Darkness: Europe's Refugee Woes (31/8/15) by Binoy Kampmark | Global Research, Why the Refugee Crisis (31/8/15) by Stephen Lendman | Global Research, 'Merkel stays silent': Twitter mocks German chancellor for not speaking out over attacks on refugees (26/8/15) | RT, Tolerating Refugees, Not Criticism: Protester Charged for Heckling Merkel (/9/15) | Sputnik, Merkel to Visit Anti-Refugee Protests-Hit Heidenau Following Clashes (25/8/15) | Sputnik, German Activists Boo Merkel During Visit to Protest-Hit Heidenau (26/8/15) | Sputnik.
Goverments responding like drunks
Population growth is assumed to be unquestionable
Happy Wattle Day
Convenience food for dogs, cats and people
Melbourne Planning and population policy a law unto itself
Letter to Planning Minister Richard Wynne
The long grieving process
Developers most likely live elsewhere
Well encapsulated , Dennis K
Houses where I live are sold for the land, too
Bendigo mosque ‘to attract more Muslim worshippers’
War investment provokes diaspora from Middle East
Look after roos and frogs will take care of themselves
The Age mis-presenting roos as scary plague
Same observations re houses for sale
Bank shares have been hammered
The Australian currency and inflation
How can economic benefits be justified?
Mortgages - legal draining of wealth
Currencies are deflating
My observations is based on my experience
Housing reliance an admission of a vacuous economy
Stop China Australia Free Trade Agreement: Rally Melbourne 12PM
If you are near the Melbourne CBD, please attend a rally to Stop the China Australia Free Trade agreement at 12PM midday at Parliament House.
Stand up for local jobs and communities. Join us to stop #ChAFTA.
257 tariffs remain on exports while cheap imports are limitless.
From Trade Minister Andrew Robb to Chinese Minister for Commerce Gao Hucheng, 17 June 2015:
Australia will remove the requirement for mandatory skills assessment for the following ten occupations on the date of entry into force of the agreement.
- Automotive Electrician
- Cabinetmaker
- Carpenter
- Carpenter and Joiner
- Diesel Motor Mechanic
- Electrician (General)
- Electrician (Special Class)
- Joiner
- Motor Mechanic (General)
- Motorcycle Mechanic
Modern Jubilees, Full reserve banking and more.....