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I have just completed the 5 yearly census form for the Australian Bureau of Statistics . Divulging the information it asks for would not have worried me at all a few years ago, but filling it in tonight made me uneasy and suspicious. You are required within the first few questions to reveal where you live, with whom you live and for how long you have lived there. It asks about your ancestry and where you were born. That's OK. Then there are questions that pertain to your level of dependency- does any one need to help you with any aspects of daily routines? etc. Then there are questions about your level of education, then about your income, about your level of employment and if you are looking for work, how many hours spent on housework then if one is involved in voluntary work- That's reasonable. It was question 55 that worried me. "How many bedrooms in this dwelling?" Well they may want to know to assess Australia's standard of living. Much reported "demographer" Bernard Salt seems very keen to get "widows" and "empty nesters " to leave the family home and move into apartments. This helps the property industry and helps churn real estate. Governments appear to be very helpful to this sector by keeping up a sea of property buyers (newly arrived immigrants with purchasing power). The information on the census form reveals how many spare bedrooms there are in Australia and it seems to me, gives impetus to move people on by persuasion or manipulation. I can imagine the newspaper headline "250,000 spare bedrooms going begging!" or better still if it is conceded that the spare bedrooms are used for a few nights per year it might be quoted in "empty bedroom nights " Here's the headline "70 million empty spare bed nights!!" If I thought the information gathered by the census would help improve the lives of people living in Australia I would not feel any unease in complying. However, what services and infrastructure that governments can provide have improved since the last census?

You are absolutely right, Mark. How could I forget and how come this factor is so little mentioned? If you have more on it, please write more. I have mosquito fish and goldfish in ponds at home and it is true that there are no mosquitoes in the ponds, however there are mosquitos in the grass around the ponds, morning and evening. Without taking away from your comments and the importance of fish, let us consider how land disturbance in agriculture, war, and canal digging, create new opportunities in the soil for mosquitoes to rear their young away from the usual presence of fish and other creatures that dine of mosquitoes. This ties in with Pérez Moreda’s ecological theory that changes to the landscapes of agricultural holdings in the 18th century, with deforestation caused by overgrazing, and soil degradation through environmentally destructive farming practices, were two important factors in the expansion of the disease.

Sheila, Interesting speculations about malaria in your piece. But an absolutely crucial 4 letter word is missing: FISH. Fish are the great predators upon mosquito wrigglers. Almost all normal fish (other than those too large or too specialised in bottom feeding or algae scraping) eat mosquito wrigglers in preference to almost all other foods. (Get yourself an aquarium with guppies or white cloud minnows -- add wrigglers at the same time as other fish foods, and watch.) Wrigglers are rapidly and utterly eliminated by fish from open waters -- unless the water is so choked with vegetation that fish can't penetrate. Or some fool has being spraying DDT on pools that would normally contain fish. Some supposed authorities are so ignorant of this basic ecological fact that they talk as if it was the amount of water around that determines mosquito populations. In general wrigglers need temporary pools where fish can't survive. That's why you can often harvest wrigglers at the beach -- but only in fish-less rockpools well above normal high tide. Marshes may or may not contain such fish-free areas. Cheers, Mark

Pray tell, What is "ground-breaking" about this report? It is mere propaganda telling us that we must submit to what we are trying democratically to prevent. (See below). The Age is to be condemned for its supine reporting on these matters. On another forum it has been pointed out that NO letters were printed in the Age mentioning population growth as an avoidable factor driving this misery for Melbourne "A ground-breaking report released today by the Victorian Environmental Assessment Council warns that public open space, such as local parks, gardens and public golf courses will have to cater for communities swelling by more than 1500 new residents a week. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/open-spaces-to-shrink-as-melbourne-gro... " It would make more sense for people to boycott the Age and Murdoch's press and write to alternative blogs. You only make the bad guys stronger by writing in their papers. It gives them too much credibility. Melbournians have been trained like lab-rats to write letters to the paper, but the papers make money out of undemocratic growth.

Jenny Warfe writes: Denying Melbourne's citizens the ability to play with kids, own pets and enjoy the outdoors because of "population pressure" encroaching onto the city's cherished public open spaces is not planning but about caving into market forces. Our population growth is not inevitable, or something that our government is forced to pro-actively plan for. It's decided and imposed on us through economic immigration levels, and an unrealistic economic model based on perpetual growth. Once growth continues beyond optimum levels, the costs exceed the benefits and the returns are negative. It's all about greed, and the fact that Victoria has few economic activities except those that rely on population growth. Doctors for the Environment warn about the health costs of urban sprawl, including lack of exercise and obesity. They are also concerned about rising greenhouse gas emissions from higher density living. Planning used to be about ensuring the quality of life in our city, and protecting valuable natural buffer zones from developments. Now, it's all about forcing the public to accommodate declining lifestyles so we can accommodate 1500 new residents each week! A response to http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/open-spaces-to-shrink-as-melbourne-grows-20110807-1ihpr.html

Australia should learn from the woes and social unrest of London, and the decline of the USA. We have been sold the wonderful economic benefits of "diversity" and multiculturalism, but once the mainstream get overwhelmed by sub cultures and become alienated by overpopulation of new-comers and various foreign cultures, society becomes fragmented and disoriented. The costs of social security payments in the UK must be massive, and the cuts are hurting. People like to live in harmonious societies, and mix with like-minded people. It builds nations and cements people together. Diversity can be stimulating and beneficial, but an economy based on perpetual growth -for growth's sake - is misanthropic and damaging socially and economically.

Our government won't be keen to have the extent of homelessness revealed by the census. The rate of population growth, due to our Ponzi property investment and growth-based economy, means those who are down the bottom of the pyramid, the vulnerable, become dispossessed and discarded while those at the top skim the wealth from society for themselves. While the "immigration" debate is cleverly distracted by the asylum seekers, economic immigration creates greater competition for housing and jobs, and thus higher house prices and lower wages. In South Australia alone, the population has more than tripled in 95 years from 408,558 in 1911 to 1,514,337 in 2006, but this is only one tiny statistic the census has been able to tell us. The numbers of homeless people in Victoria has increased by 13.8 percent from 17,840 in 1996 to 20,305 people in 2001. With the latest census figures suggesting more than 20,500 people are at present homeless in Victoria, the government is preparing to overhaul the way agencies assisting the homeless are funded - with public money! Like the indigenous peoples before us, the vulnerable and powerless are being dispossessed from land ownership, and the basic human right to shelter. The "Lucky country" has become history!

The Victorian Environment Assessment Council today released its report on public land in metropolitan Melbourne. It is not a surprise to learn that public space per capita is decreasing because of population growth. Pressure on public land comes through additional population and the requirements for schools, hospitals and community facilities etc. Melbourne's population in 2010 was 4.08 million and according to the report expected to rise to well over 5 million even 5.7 million by 2031 and that existing public open space highly prized by communities will need to be protected and new open space will need to be provided to meet the needs of the growing population. It will be interesting to read how this latter can be done. The report noted that many of those who provided submissions expressed fears that open space would be lost to development for an ever growing population. It is such a pity that something so important to people's health and well being as public land is not only placed in jeopardy , but will almost certainly accessibility will certainly deteriorate because of population growth which we do not have to have.

I wholeheartedly concur with Nimby's comment above.

Australian humanitarian tolerance is being abused by the UN. Priority for humanitarianism needs to start at home - our indigenous, our rural and remote communities, our unemployed, our youth, our disadvantaged. If Australia's underclass hired a boat and sailed it to Ashmore Reef, splashed on fake tan, ditched their IDs and didn't speak, our Navy would collect them and they would receive the humanitarian care they deserve at home.

The UN is failing to deal decisively with civil unrest issues fundamentally and failing to contain the humanitarian problem with the countries concerned. The government violence against citizens in Sri Lanka, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Burma Syria is no different to what the Army of Republika Srpska did to the Bosniaks in the 1995 Srebrenica massacre with UN 'peacekeepers' standing by. Let us not forget Rwanda. Where the United Nations is systemically failing, the humanitarian problem and the overwhelming numbers of breeding humans is being encouraged to spread like an uncontrolled pandemic. People have a right to life and a right to live without violence and famine. People have a right to flee violence and famine. But the causes of violence and famine at home are being avoided by the United Nations. The United Nations is irresponsibly reactionary and painfully slow at that. Worse is that the UN is not cracking down on the global Arms Trade.

Refugees and asylum seekers perpetuate because of these threats and so good samaritan countries like Australia sign up to be on the receiving end of other people's conflict.
Just as humanitarian charities need to be held accountable for unsustainable population growth in countries that cannot cope (Sudan), the United Nations needs to be made accountable for controlling the cause of the refugee problems.

The UN status quo is to see the human pathogen spread until that globally societies are diluted by sheer numbers undermining the hard fought standards of living of advanced nations like Australia. What the leftist humanitarians ignore is what happens when the peoples of Third World nations saturate Australia society, economy and ecology? Their humanitarianism is selective and short-sighted utopianism. Australia will become like South Africa, where the the lowest common denominator is the mainstream.

Quality of life, infrastructure, public services, carrying capacity need to be critical success factors of all immigration globally. The Tottenham Race Riots [Read More] in London of 6th August 2011 (just last weekend) are symptomatic of decades of naive uncontrolled immigration policies inviting hoards in from Africa, with no thought of carrying capacity and ignoring the inevitable social, environmental and ecological costs of too many people concentrated into ghettos. There is no work, public infrastructure can't cope, the police can't cope. Moving the world's poor, persecuted and starving to wealth countries is just relocating the problems, not addressing them. It is indeed a folly. It is the single misguided global policy fueling the greatest problem facing the planet in the 21st Century - the human pathogen.

Tigerquoll
Suggan Buggan
Snowy River Region
Victoria 3885
Australia

Any land without human structures, such as buildings, roads or other infrastructures, is now considered "vacant" or "ripe" for developments. With people being forced to "choose" higher density living, more families will be cooped up in box-like apartments with little playing areas for children. This will lead to obesity, depression, diabetes, lack of connection with the natural world, and addiction to electronic entertainment. The more people live in high density areas, the more they will need all this "surplus" land for recreation and its aesthetic and environmental values. Urban sprawl is a great consuming monster, threatening our green wedges, parklands, coastal areas, and outer urban bushland - remnant wildlife habitats. Once populations expand beyond their optimum levels of saturation, the fallout ends up in negative returns. Contrary to planning being about ensuring our liveability and housing affordability, it now means forcing more "developments" and eroding our quality of life.

The solution to the asylum seeker problem is to disentangle ourselves from the UN's refugee convention of 1951 and its updates. We need our government to have the courage to assert our sovereignty over our shores and borders and not be dictated to by the UN's "humanitarian" blurring of nation-hood. Arriving un-welcomed onto our shores should be made illegal and this would avoid people smugglers and random ships risking lives to take reckless voyages here, various off-shore "solutions" at tax-payers' expense, and leaving unaccompanied children. While the "welcome mat" of high immigration and legality of our refugee acceptance continues, people will keep arriving. We should be increasing our humanitarian intake and decreasing our economic immigration numbers, and they should be selected and assessed as genuine refugees off-shore. Swapping people is not enough of a deterrent. The boats are still coming. A void of our agreement to the UN refugee convention would end the ongoing problems of detention centres, riots, hunger strikes, children and all the political "immigration" smokescreen of the asylum seeker problem. We should be focusing on our own population growth.

Published: Friday, Aug. 5, 2011 - 10:32 am at www.sacbee.com/2011/08/05/3819402/media-group-urges-un-probe-of.html

LONDON -- An international media safety group has joined calls Friday for the United Nations to investigate NATO's bombing of Libyan television, which reportedly killed 3 people and injured 15.

The International News Safety Institute (INSI) asked U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to determine whether last week's airstrike amounted to a breech of a 2006 Security Council resolution that bans attacks on journalists.

Libyan officials said Saturday's airstrikes on the state television's satellite transmitters killed three journalists and injured 15 other people.

On Wednesday, the International Federation of Journalists also condemned the bombing and called for a probe.

NATO has said the bombing was in line with its U.N. mandate authorizing airstrikes to protect the civilian population.

But INSI director Rodent Pincer said such attacks could not be excused "on the basis that you disagree with the point of view of the news organizations."

"NATO forces in Libya are acting under a Security Counsel mandate to protect civilians and journalists are civilians," he said.

Globalisation is evangelised as the new religion of humanism; dare criticise it and invoke hardcore wrath labelling of 'racist' and be persecuted like a Salem Witch of 1692 under irrational prejudice.

Yet the demise of local values, endemic plants, endemic animals and traditional peoples are under barrage from the human pathogen. The pendulum of numbers..influence..power had now shifted from the incumbent population to the immigrant population.

Every introduced immigrant that steps off a plane, every introduced plant (weed), every introduced animal (feral) compounds the human pathogen against endemic species and peoples. Our 21st Century has the most humans ever. Climate change is not the problem.
Blessed be Whitlam's multiculturalism, Fraser's multiculturalism, Hawke's multiculturalism, Keating's cultural diversity and Rudd's Big Australia - the ubiquitous human melting pot?

Beachhead immigration in Australia has prevaded local society into becoming a preferred choice of Labor MPs.
It's no different to VicForests logging Potoroo forest habitat throughout Victoria's East Gippsland and then introducing sheep. Then there is the bizarre argument of one breed of ferals proclaiming more rights over that of another.

Read the following article:

'Deer culling attracts wild dogs'

Wednesday, 27/04/2011
[Source: http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/201104/s3201322.htm]

'Wild dogs are encroaching closer into urban areas of Victoria's east Gippsland.
Leo Hamilton, retired agronomist and 40-year landholder, has lost $1,000 worth of sheep to wild dogs in two months at his fine wool enterprise on the outskirts of Bairnsdale.

He says a formerly minor dog problem is escalating, as shooters try to control feral deer, and their fallen carcasses attract other pest animal predators.

"Sambar deer is not the sort of thing you throw in the back of the ute and cart off. You are talking 300-400 kilos of meat," he said.
"And you talk to the truckies and the truckies have got the same problem. If they hit one on the road, it is two and half grand to fix the truck."

Mr Hamilton says wild dogs were controlled in the past, but the behaviour of the large dogs has changed from shy killers for food, to aggressive and savage attacks that maim sheep.

"What is different about this attack is they are not predictable. In the past, the dog has come in and eaten the sheep, but these are unpredictable as they come in at any time, don't eat the sheep, they mutilate the sheep, they just play with the sheep and maul them."

Mr Hamilton says the culled feral pest deer weigh 300-400 kilogram, making them too heavy for shooters to remove.

"Their [sic] attitude is that they disaster in a couple of days...but they disappear in a couple of days because the wild dogs and foxes eat them."

He says the wild dog problem is escalating and growing as the sambar deer population spreads to the outer urban areas.

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...No mention of the indigenous Potoroo in all that. The controlling ferals are debating inter-feral rights, while the indigenous are ignored, forgotten...relegated to history's underclass.

The terror of invasion.
The defeat of a people and their cultural annihilation - resigned, hopeless and death row resolve in the face of an invader’s genocidal 'business as usual'.

Currently ecological conservation efforts are being made to deal with the rabbit population on Maquairie Island in a bid to save and restore the indigenous populations and habitat.

Tigerquoll
Suggan Buggan
Snowy River Region
Victoria 3885
Australia

my post to the site exactly as I posted above has been deleted.

Australian Fabians Julia Gillard Plan for Better Breeding Stock 23/08/2005 Without a drive for change, this generation of Australian children and the generations to follow will live with an enormous burden of chronic disease, much of it preventable. A Labor vision of government needs to be of an active and interventionist government but one that is active and interventionist on those issues that will make a long term difference. We should not be today’s managers and appeasers. We should be the builders of a better tomorrow. In health, we should be the builders of a healthy society by changing behaviours in a way which will reduce preventable diseases.

The 10 best cities in the world for public transport don't include any in Australia. Australia's economy is showing marked signs of weakness. Most analysts have focused on the high Aussie dollar, which is impacting on manufacturing and non-mining exports, and consumers who are thrifty are squirreling away their cash rather than spending it in shops.

If you look at the long-run trends in Australian GDP over the past three years, the end of the Government's stimulus package seems suspiciously correlated to the onset of weaker domestic economic conditions.

Australia ranked No. 34 in a World Economic Forum report on infrastructure quality in 2010-11, which is two spots behind Slovenia and one spot ahead of Jordan.

Read more: Spend-up needed to spark economic growth by Adele Ferguson in the Sydney Morning Herald of 5 Aug 11.

According to the report, Denmark and Sweden continue to be assessed as the world’s most networked economies for the third consecutive year in The Global Information Technology Report while the United States moves up one position to third place. 2008-2009

There are 230 countries in the world, only 80 have a population in excess of 10-million. 60 countries are considered to be in the "Premier League", 120 in the second division and 50 are considered to be "Failed States".

South Africa has the 32nd largest economy in the world in $US GDP terms and the 25th largest in $US GDP measured in terms of Purchasing Power Parity. We have the 25th biggest population (0.7 percent of the world’s total population) and we are the 25th largest geographically with Johannesburg being the 87th largest city in the world. Our GDP per capita is ranked 76th at $US 10 000 which is the same as the world average.

So, given the size of our population and our economy, in terms of global competitiveness rankings we should be ranked in the range of 25th to 35th, but we are ranked 52nd.

business.iafrica.com/features/745204.html (I couldn't view page on my browser - Ed.)

Analysts are cutting earnings forecasts globally, with those in export-dependent economies such as Taiwan, Singapore and Australia bearing the biggest cuts.

Australia faces a precarious future unless we make rapid changes to stabilise our population. It is selfish of us to put the well-being of future generations at risk through foolish and stealing from them, through our undemocratic population growth policies.

Australia has been muddling about having a fast train service for years, and now the broadband network NBN has only just had a limited release.

The top 10 technologically advanced countries in the world do not include Australia. With our government's fetish for a Ponzi-style growth-based economic model, we are being left behind.

The Global Report published by the World Economic Forum examines the preparedness of countries to use ICT effectively on three dimensions: the business environment, regulatory and general infrastructure.

Top ten countries are:

  1. Sweden
  2. Singapore
  3. Finland
  4. Switzerland
  5. United States
  6. Taiwan, China
  7. Denmark
  8. Canada
  9. Norway
  10. Korea, Rep

Taiwan is almost as technologically advanced as the United States, a report released by the World Economic Forum and INSEAD demonstrates. Sweden and Singapore continued to dominate the list, followed by Finland, which jumped three places from last year to third.

Internationally renowned for its high-technology and health care, Finland researchers are leading contributors in the fields of forest improvement, new materials, environment, neutral networks, low-temperature physics, brain research, biotechnology, genetic technology and communications.

Advances in space technology have made USA a superpower. It also leads the world in scientific research papers and 50% of the households have broadband Internet access. The country is the primary developer and grower of genetically modified food, representing half of the world's biotech crops.

Sweden is a small country has one of the highest standards of living in the world and is renowned for its top-quality scientific and technological development. Sweden apportions 4% of its GDP to R&D, one of the very few countries to do so.

The Republic of Korea has made great technological advancements in the fields of electronics, automobiles, ships, machinery, petrochemicals and robotics. Their GDP is driven by exporting products manufactured from this sector.

Singapore houses technological institutes to provide its citizens resources to equip themselves to further technological advancement. The Agency for Science, Technology and Research.

Could it be that successive Australian governments, along with business, have been running a Ponzi scheme with our assets, our resources and our future?

Ponzi scheme operators meet their forecast earnings simply by getting more investors to invest, using their principal to pay “returns” to existing investors. This goes on and on -- until someone works out that all of the capital the investors have invested has been paid out to service payments to existing investors. If new investors don’t come in, existing investors never get paid out.

Our leaders and academics worship growth, and the public are supposed to too! It's a Ponzi scheme and the elite are the only "winners". Water is a basic essential of life, and should not be made a luxury commodity. There is nothing "inevitable" about our population growth. It's due to government policy, and our population numbers are designed to support our Economy, even to our detriment. Our dependancy on future generations and/or immigration to support us as we grow older is the ultimate Ponzi scheme.

We should be investing in the future, in high quality, leading edge communications, climate change alternative energy sources, and fast transport. Instead, we get ongoing immigration, a lagging behind on infrastructure, shortages of publis services and skills training, and freeways that ultimately promote more expansion and growth instead of consolidation and advancements.

The global crisis has clearly demonstrated that under a globalized system, the problems of citizens, businesses and nations are generated from international problems, impossible to solve, whether by the international organizations, whether by the national governments.

Globalization means ending the sovereignties of independent nations/states.

Where else can the Victorian Government bundle the federal foreign hoards?

Corporate developers cashing in have gone vertical at Docklands. They've sprawled west from Werribee, sprawled north from Broadmeadows, sprawled east from Narre Warren.
Where else can the hoards landing at Tulla be housed, but south sprawling over the once ti-treed Peninsula?

A wider freeway through Frankston, indeed through Hastings, Flinders and Rosebud, will entice the immigrant.."If you build it, he will come." 1
Red Hill's tranquil days as a family hobby farm experiment are numbered; the developer 'burbs are upon you!

Rudd's Big Australia has only changed in name... 'Rudd'.

Melbournians, the time has come to protest to preserve and contain your Melbourne - to burn tyres across the inbound lane of the Tulla freeway, to proclaim NO to federal policy of unrelenting hoards! Hoist placards up Kennett's Tulla cheese sticks sending a clear message that...

'We're bloody full!'

Tigerquoll
Suggan Buggan
Snowy River Region
Victoria 3885
Australia

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1 Shoeless Joe Jackson quoted in the 1989 Phil Alden Robinson film 'Field of Dreams'

If Acland was built to support Queensland's oldest continuously worked coal mine then is it a big suprise that a coal mine would lead to the town being moved? The town would not exist without coal mining yet you seem peturbed that coal mining is occurring. Did Acland ever use power generated by coal? Did any Acland resident ever directly receive money from the coal mine? Did any Acland businesses ever benefited from coal mining? Is the desire of one old man more important than jobs for 400 people? Would it not be considered selfish if one person stopped 400 directly from working and thousands more in flow on effects? Is the mining company not legally bound to regenerate the land after use? Must they not deposit money into an untouchable account to cover the cost of regeneration? Maybe there is more than one very biased side to this tale? But I would imagine you will not post this as it disagrees with your agenda. From an open minded Environment Scientist

According to the Department of Sustainability and Environment, the old growth forest at Toolangi contains critically endangered Leadbeaters Possum, rainforest of state significance and senescent Mountain Ash trees. There are ferns in the understorey that could be as old as from the 13th century AD. Preliminary studies have found the forests meet Leadbeaters Habitat Zone 1a. However, logging continues at Sylvia Creek. With our state government culpable of environmental vandalism and forcing endangered species further towards extinction, how are the public meant to respect it? Lawlessness from the top means hypocrisy and those in government show little example to follow, or role-model. This area survived Black Saturday, and the BAER report recommended that it be protected from logging. However, it falls on deaf ears of our Baillieu government! They have betrayed their integrity for profits, and short-term ism at its worst. Their vandalism sets a very poor precedent for the public to follow. We are encouraged to save water, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, recycle, but at the same time all the sequestered carbon from these trees, and their ability to absorb it, is being eradicated! Shame on our State government, and they are no better than Brumby! Email Premier Ted Baillieu: [email protected]

Humans can be extremely selfish and unkind. The University of Queensland is continuing terminal surgical procedures on unclaimed homeless animals from shelters for use in dissection and vivisection, despite a recommendation from the Animal Welfare Advisory Committee (AWAC) that the practice be stopped. Please urge them to switch to non-animal teaching methods immediately by using the link below! http://action.petaasiapacific.com/ea-campaign/clientcampaign.do?ea.client.id=110&ea.campaign.id=8935qwq Thanks in advance for your action for animals!

Maybe it is fitting that the notion of Australian democracy is being archived in a museum. That is an institution for displaying things from times past isn't it?

In Libya: Gaddafi regime rallies after rebel turmoil of 2 August, the Telegraph reports :

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the dictator's heir apparent, used a meeting with Libyans displaced by fighting to declare the regime had blunted the five month bombing campaign.

"No one should think that after all the sacrifices we have made, and the martyrdom of our sons, brothers and friends, we will stop fighting. Forget it," Saif declared. "Regardless of whether Nato leaves or not, the fighting will continue until all of Libya is liberated. Let me say to you that the battle will not stop. Every one of you: return to your homes and farms and villages and jobs with peace of mind. We will not stop."

The comments by the Telegraph's readers show that most don't buy the justification for NATO's 5 month aerial bombing. They would, no doubt, be interested to know why the Libyan government of Muammar Gaddafi should any more be considered a 'dictatorship' than the US Government for which 'President' Barack Obama is a figurehead.

Can the millions of Libyans who have again and again shown their public support for the government of Libya finally hope for some level of peace and tranquility after five months of aerial bombing by NATO in support of the "Transitional National Council" (TNC) terrorists? Those Libyans of the TNC who have collaborated in NATO's war war against fellow Libyans can expect to be held to account for their crimes.

Ideally, captured TNC terrorists should be made to answer for their crimes at open public trials.

I came across this article through a google search and fully agree with it. So whats the solution? Lobby the big charites or set up a new one with this ethos? Does one exist already?

All this comes under the "review" of our "green wedges" the lungs of Melbourne. It's about facilitating more urban sprawl with more freeway links to it. It means the end of the Mornington Peninsula as a beach resort playground, conservation areas, and more generic urban sprawl. With few industries in Victoria the only, and easiest way to derive cash flows and spending, is through population growth. The strength of the Victorian economy is at risk because it relies on the ''unstable foundations'' of population growth and Melbourne's construction boom, according to a sobering pre-election analysis. Since 2006, there has also been a sharp increase in overseas migration. Melbourne's building boom had shrouded a ''dreadful'' Victorian international trade performance due to more imports than exports - a growing trade deficit! Read more: State's boom on 'shaky ground' by David Rood and Paul Austin in the Melbourne Age of 28 October 2010 Any growth that is unsustainable and on "shaky grounds" is fatalistic, and an addiction to anything unsustainable is a damning for future generations, due to inheriting limited economic resources and reduced living standards.

Hope you stop killing dolphins, Maybe someday we will suffer for the consequences we made to the dolphins. It hurts me a lot cause dolphins are friendly, Please have mercy on them. Stop eating pins of the dolphin.

Unfortunately nothing will ever change. Things will go from bad to worse with continued loss of our native wildlife, old growth forests and destruction of our living standards....and we are paying the government to do this for us as we continue to be good honest citizens that never question nanny government why they blatantly rip us off with their stupid carbon taxes, stamp duties and all the other daft taxes they impose on us...and they keep adding more taxes because they can..

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"....building tunnels and tollways that no-one wants and for which the need is induced by government policy to service parasitic developments". Exactly, the State government prioritises its spending to enable more growth, and thus public transport and libraries get a low priority. Freeways and arterial road infrastructure serves for further growth, and ongoing distribution of goods and services that feeds off it. A historic homestead is even further down their list, along with native animals, old growth forests and our heritage. Instead of Planning being about creating and ensuring a more liveable Melbourne, it has become a euphemism to over-ride democratic rights and processes and force the public to accept more "developments" whether they want it or not! Our State government doesn't lack money - it's their growth-based priorities that mean we have "shortages" of funds for where the public need them.

Lukekul, There is apparently a never-ending supply of money (taxpayers money) to support development against peoples' wills and ridiculous scales of immigration. Development does not pay for itself. If population-growth-induced inflation on land prices were reduced, the cost of living would plummet and no-one would have to work harder and harder for so-called productivity improvements, because costs of doing business would be radically reduced. The cost of preserving a homestead is tiny compared to the cost of subsidising first home buying (for immigrants and locals), or of building tunnels and tollways that no-one wants and for which the need is induced by government policy to service parasitic developments.

The owner of the property plays golf with Ted Baillieu, and also Matthew Guy. The result of this appeal will tell us a lot about just how transparent our government is, and how far favours between friends go.

I totally agree and have stated this for the last 10 years or so. I also think and believe that the twin towers story and fabrication is also in the same political league, both these cases have huge holes in them and when you really look the holes get so much bigger that it becomes a fairytale story written for adults, the book you find them in is How to Brainwash the Public by a Government Cover-up.

Flying foxes are currently getting a lot of bad press. Their role in our environment is not understood by the general public, or by many veterinarians. Their populations are declining in the face of deforestation and climate change. Rather than understanding their importance in our world, when our increased interactions result in emerging diseases, it has been easier to demonise them rather than to see that these diseases are a symptom of the changes that we humans have created. Australian Veterinary Association Newsletter NSW January 2010 Most diseases in human originated from livestock. Since time immemorial animals have been a major source of human infectious disease. Certain infections like rabies are recognized as zoonoses caused in each case by direct animal-to-human transmission. Certain infections like rabies are recognized as zoonoses caused in each case by direct animal-to-human transmission. Others like measles became independently sustained with the human population so that the causative virus has diverged from its animal progenitor. Cave bears also show evidence of tuberculosis or a related disease, brucellosis. Tuberculosis is an heirloom disease, meaning it is inherited from our primate ancestors. Brucellosis, also called undulant fever, has been passed to humans in milk and cheese from infected cows and goats since these animals were first domesticated. Rats, mice, ground squirrels, and other wild rodents have lived with plague for millions of years. The World Health Organization recently announced that global warming has affected 40% of the world's ecosystems resulting in an increase in tropical diseases. HIV and Ebola virus, both thought to originate in wild primates, are associated with deforestation. AGW is often used as a polite smoke-screen for human overpopulation, proliferation and encroachments onto wildlife habitats. Increasing demands for human "carrying capacity" means risks to both humans and wildlife - in extinction threats to non-humans and increasing diseases. Despite the growing threat of zoonotic emerging infectious diseases, our understanding of the process of disease emergence remains poor. Public health measures for such diseases often depend on vaccine and drug development to combat diseases once pathogens have emerged. Deforestation of tropical forests is one cause of increasing contact between wildlife and hunters. Deforestation rates in Cameroon are high, with a loss of 800–1,000 km2 forest cover per year and corresponding increase in road-building and expansion of settlements. Cameroon is representative of the region from which a range of notable emerging infectious diseases, including HIV/AIDS, Ebola and Marburg viruses, and monkeypox, have emerged. Hendra Virus is a zoonotic disease; that is the disease can be transmitted from horses to humans during close contact with an infected horse. Regional deforestation has changed the seasonal foraging movements of flying foxes lead to an increased reliance on horticultural crops, resulting in a relative increased density of bats proximate to human and livestock populations. Flying foxes play an important role in the forest. Pollen and nectar feeding flying foxes are involved in the pollination of many Australian tree species in both rainforest and dry woodland forests. By landing onto flowers to feed, the flying fox picks up pollens from one tree and carries them to another. Better than bees, flying foxes can travel up to 40km in an evening, and they assist in maintaining genetic diversity of these trees. With increased fragmentation of the landscape, and thus smaller honeyeater birds becoming geographically isolated within the fragments, maintenance of this diversity our forest species is now more reliant upon the flying fox family. Forests are essential to all creatures. It is human activity that is the catalyst for modern emerging zoonotic diseases. Our interactions with this species should be based on science and common sense, not demonising them based on the perceptions of a story-hungry and emotive media - such as "bombing the bats"!

Our "skills shortages" is another population myth to support immigration and an (inevitable) "big Australia". It's about increasing our tax base and creating a pool of cheaper and flexible labour, not about any shortages of skills. Surely it is contradictory that we have a big export market in tertiary education, and at the same time have skills shortages within our own population? Logically, it's the lack of opportunities and high costing that is denying locals opportunities to gain skills, not lack of courses and enrollment opportunities. The international community must see this contradiction and image that we Australians are dumb or lazy! With mining operating in many remote locations, instead of businesses claiming that we have chronic and crippling "skills shortages" and thus sourcing employees from overseas - temporary workers? - they should be broadcasting their needs to the cities and regional areas - and be offering scholarships and training opportunities. Australians should not be by-passed. Our natural resources are a finite, so what happens to our "big Australia" when they wind down? Globalising our work-force in preference to training and employing our own citizens is actually racist in reverse- a favouritism of foreigners over our own people!

Very true. And didn't they also miss out big-time by excluding the livestock industry which produces 51% of GHG? "It’s embarrassing for Australia that we eat our own wildlife ....I’m here to tell you it’s just not right. Simply do not buy, use or eat kangaroo products” ~ Steve Irwin Sign the most important petition ever created to help kangar

Wildlife carers are the unsung heroes of Australia doing back-breaking and heart-breaking work every single day of their lives, without pay and without holidays. I honour you Denise and all wildlife carers and I just wish that more Australians would take care to drive more slowly and carefully on our roads, to not use barbed wire fencing, to not buy meat that comes from native animals and not shoot at them 'for fun.' All these activities just make more work for amazing individuals like Denise McLean. My sincere condolences for the tragic loss of Raini last week. You must be devastated ....

I think that Victorians can take some heart from the way the Baillieu Government has partially backed away from its previous choice to impose upon the Torquay community the wishes of property developers, but the decision falls a long way short of what Torquay residents need to protect their community and have every right to expect from the Baillieu Government. 'Opposition' spokesman Brian Tee's stance is indeed hypocritical. A decent critical newsmedia would have asked Brian Tee for examples of how his previous 'Labour' state Government treated Victorians, who disagreed with its decisions, any better that the current Ballieu Liberal/National Government has and why they should expect any better from a future Labour Government. The sorry experience of Victorian voters have with the current Ballieu Liberal/National Government, the 'Labor' Governments of John Brumby and Stephen Bracks immediately before that and the Liberal/National Government of Jeff Kennett is illustration that voters have no real choice between the two major parties in Victoria and would be unwise to place any trust in Labour because of Brian Tee's recent utterances. Until a party truly committed to protecting the interests of ordinary Victorians against developer greed wins government, or until direct democracy is written into our state and national constitutions, Victorians are unlikely to get anything much better that will endure.

THE Baillieu government has backed down on controversial plans to rezone hundreds of hectares of farmland at Spring Creek in Torquay for new housing after a community backlash. The Age - Plans for rezoning scrapped The backdown follows questions of possible conflicts of interest about Mr Guy's appointment of Geoff Underwood as a key planning adviser. Mr Guy was guilty of bullying (ie "ministerial amendment") and over-riding local council with veiled threats that they must accept his decision, despite public opinion to the contrary. Matthew Guy, in statement 28th July, magnanimously said "After the Council's vote last night, I have today expressed my desire to the Surf Coast Mayor that we continue to work together to resolve land supply and affordability issues in Torquay, but given the Council is willing to consider other locations apart from Spring Creek, a ministerial amendment is no longer necessary and will not proceed..." Are they really willing to consider "other locations" to resolve "land supply and affordability" issues in Torquay"? It's assumes that our "land supply" can be addressed at the same time as our socially-engineered population growth continues. He simply doesn't want to admit defeat, or that our "shortage" of affordable housing is something that is actually motivating our State government rather than being "fixed" or "resolved"! Successive State governments have been politically sponsored and patronised by land developers and the growth-pushing industries to destroy any affordable housing in Melbourne. With few industries in Victoria except exploiting land, and promoting our "housing shortage", the demand will continue to be exacerbated by population growth. It justifies all the "developments" under the smoke-screen of addressing our shortage "affordable housing"! Opposition Planning spokesman Brian Tee hoped Mr Guy ''will learn that councils and communities will not be threatened, bullied or intimidated and that he will rethink his approach to planning''. This is rather hypocritical since the Brumby government's Planning Minister Justin Madden maddened the public with his obfuscation of public consultation - and their population boom that caused them to lose the last election.

When Ted Baillieu became Premier, he promise "transparent and common-sense" government. In Opposition, Mr Baillieu promised his Government would be open, transparent and accountable but the reality has been very different. Instead, this Government has been shutting down questioning, dodging issues and stifling attempts of the public to explain policies. Today, instead of a meeting to discuss forestry, he and the staff at Ted Baillieu's office decided to shut the doors to the voting public! At least the media were able to expose their secrecy and lies. If they had no secrets, then they would not need to hide from the public.

"What sort of generalisation is this? A double storey building will not be seen? It will be seen from the walking track, as in the photo. How would hide it?" What are you talking about? The photo proves nothing, aside from the fact that you can see most of the Banyule Homestead from the parklands. Do you have any idea how big the block of land is, how big those trees in your picture are, how steep it slopes or even where they're planning to build the townhouses? This is what I meant when I said check your facts, you're making far bigger generalisations than I without even bothering to research the other side of this issue. At least I can point to a written document (which details that the Heritage Council will be intimately involved in every stage of this development, and will be ensuring that the view in your picture is protected) to back my beliefs up, where is your proof that the townhouses will be visible from the parklands? "The $300,000 over 10 years would not nearly be enough to restore the homestead. It's just tokenism." Again, beyond your own speculation, do you have proof of this? Do you have any actual figures of how much it will cost to restore the Banyule Homestead? Regardless, even if it is tokenism, it's the biggest 'token' that the Homestead has seen in decades. Far better than any level of government or members of the community, such as yourself, are willing to offer. All that aside, the main point of my last comment was that even if you can dismiss my points like this, they are still points that you must dismiss in the first place. To omit them entirely from your article makes you seem like you are simply twisting the story to suit your own agenda. Your 'real' solution makes a mockery of our legal system that only suits your present needs - I challenged you to come up with a legal and viable alternative, and you even note that it's not legal yourself, so why bother mentioning it in the first place? It's the typical frustrated response from somebody who does not like the idea of something but cannot come up with an actual solution, and I've seen it so many times it's almost scary. If a government is allowed to seize private property 'for it's own protection', where do we draw the line? Having very close friends who've migrated here from China, where you cannot own property (it is all owned and leased by the government) and even if you've leased it your home can be seized at any time and for any reason, I have no desire to see our government take even the slightest step in this direction, and neither should you. As for your far more reasonable solution (comparatively speaking), as has been noted numerous times throughout its more recent history, regardless of what they say, neither the state government nor the local council are interested in paying any money for Banyule Homestead. I've heard from several sources that when the property was put to auction by the state government the local council insisted that they would need money to restore it (ie: that the state government would need to pay them to take it off their hands) and refused to pay anything for it! I'd wager that even if you pressed them on this issue now, both the state and local governments would refuse to make any commitment to buy the Homestead for any price. That aside, even if they were to somehow obtain Banyule Homestead, it's also important to keep in mind that it was the state and council governments that allowed the Homestead to fall into such disrepair in the first place. The Homestead suffered the most in government hands, and they weren't interested in restoring it back then; why would they be interested now? What really appalls me though, and the reason why I push so hard against this issue, is the extreme lack of faith the local community seems to have in the Heritage Council. Nobody seems willing to recognize or acknowledge the fact that the Heritage Council, the very people who know the most about the Banyule Homestead, the same people who's job it is to ensure that buildings like the Banyule Homestead are not ruined by development, will be involved in every step of this development. Nothing will happen without their okay, and so I feel that if they, remembering that they are experts on heritage, are willing to give it their okay, then I believe that it is worth supporting. What people seem to be asking for is for some magical benevolent force to fly in and save the Homestead with a never-ending supply of money, but what I am asking these people to do is, if you do not like the idea of development at Banyule Homestead, to come up with a real alternative solution, which you do not seem to have. I'll ask again, but will not hold my breath waiting for a response: can you actually come up with a viable and legal alternative that has not already been tried and failed?

I received thee following e-mail from Christine Pruneaux of the Macedon Ranges Residents Association.

Hello Everyone,

A very special update, because Council will be making a 30 year decision tomorrow night (Wednesday) at Kyneton Town Hall, 7.00pm.

The Macedon Ranges Settlement Strategy is up for decision, and it will be there until 2036. This document affects everyone in the Shire, so MRRA is urging people to get to the Council meeting.

We have taken the unusual step of including our report on this issue in this email, as well as posting it on our website www.mrra.asn.au That’s how important we think this issue is.

We have also included contact details (below) for Councillors by the wards and towns they represent, and encourage you to send your thoughts to your Councillors.

Please help let people know by forwarding this message to your networks.

Kind regards,

Christine Pruneau
MRRA

Wilderness Society Victoria are planning a sit-in in Premier Baillieu's office tomorrow, where they will be refusing to leave until they have a meeting with him. The intention is to call on Baillieu to put an immediate halt to logging in Toolangi. The meeting is at the Wilderness Society's office at 9:45am sharp tomorrow morning for a briefing before carpooling out to his office in Campberwell to begin the sit in at 11am. Carpooling available - contact Pia [email protected] M: 0412 739 201 Address: Level 2, 288 Brunswick Street Fitzroy Victoria 3065

It's time for the end to diplomatic action and "niceness" when Councils are over-ruled as well as the opinions of local residents. It's an attack on democracy. Woodend and the Macedon region is doomed to be another Melton or Hoppers Crossing - an ocean of housing, towers, mega-stores and all the human-fallouts - violence, crime, litter, social ills - that follow high growth areas. It will mean increased Rates, and more "shortages" of public and council services, and the inevitable cutbacks to funding. Picketing any bulldozers, and public barriers may be the ultimate need to stop the growth -cancer overtaking outer areas that is spreading from Melbourne.

"...it is considered that the introduction of the proposed dwellings will not further impact on existing views"! What sort of generalisation is this? A double storey building will not be seen? It will be seen from the walking track, as in the photo. How would hide it? The $300,000 over 10 years would not nearly be enough to restore the homestead. It's just tokenism. The development will mean it is never available for public use again as the car parking will be compromised, as well as the resident's privacy. The building should never have been sold to private owners. "A house, even a heritage homestead, is just a building, and as such it cannot heal over time..." For many people, our heritage is precious and under threat from many sources. There is no reason for this development. The only people who gain will be the owners, and the rest of the community, and our history, will be locked away forever. The "development" and growth-frenzy is over-riding Melbourne's past, and our developer-friendly government policies give them preference of the majority objectors. A mistake was made in the past by having this building put up for public auction. This can't be undone, unfortunately, but at least it should be protected from opportunism and further compromise to the integrity of the whole property. The real solution would be compulsory acquisition, but it probably can't be legally justified. If the present owners can't afford its upkeep, they should sell it and it should pass into public hands once more.

NEW Big Action Required Council To Make 30 Year Decision on Settlement Strategy On Wednesday 27 July

Be there - Kyneton Town Hall, Wednesday 27 July, 7.00pm.

(26/7/11 - P) Latest Settlement Strategy still favours mysterious growth agendas for Woodend, Gisborne, Clarkefield and Riddells Creek. Is someone still doing Villawood, individual landowners and the Committee for Melbourne a favour?

Macedon Ranges Settlement Strategy, a document which is supposed to set out a 30 year growth path for the Shire's towns, is up for approval at the Ordinary Council Meeting at Kyneton on Wednesday 27 July, 7.00pm. BE THERE!

Some changes in the latest version of the Settlement Strategy (available from Council's website www.mrsc.vic.gov.au) improve the document, but changes not made highlight a stubborn refusal to eliminate illogical and unjustified growth for Woodend, Gisborne, Riddells Creek and Gisborne.

· At Woodend, the higher growth target of 5,000 (instead of the 4,400 so strongly supported by the community) is still there. The document still doesn't say growth will be within the existing residential (R1, LDRZ) zones, just that no Greenfields rezoning is needed. Why? What justifies this?

· At Gisborne, the 2036 population of 14,700 still includes additional population being surreptitiously added for increased development in Rural Living zones, when the proper process for doing that hasn't occurred. This adds almost another 3,000 people to Gisborne, over and above the 12,000 already assigned to the town by the Gisborne/New Gisborne Outline Development Plan. Why? What justifies this?

· At Riddells Creek, the Settlement Strategy acknowledges infrastructure and services are deficient, yet the town's population is set to double by 2036, and be larger than Romsey. Strong constraints on growth in and to the north of the town will inevitably see residential development sprawling south into the rural zone buffer separating the town from metropolitan Melbourne. Why? What justifies this?

· At Clarkefield, even though the Minister for Planning has made it clear that turning Clarkefield into a metropolitan-style growth area isn't on, the Settlement Strategy still supports one landowner's aspirations for large scale residential development. Why? What justifies this?

· Statement of Planning Policy No. 8 policy is belatedly added but not acknowledged as about to become State policy. Why not?

"What's going on?" doesn't stop there.

· The Settlement Strategy doesn't say 'no extension of the town boundary' (as people have been led to believe it would by a Council officer and Councillor), it only says no Greenfields rezoning. Yet the agenda item after the Settlement Strategy at Wednesday's meeting is... a greenfields rezoning at Woodend with an officer's recommendation to approve. Is 'no greenfields rezoning' going to be equally ignored when Villawood's rezoning request comes to Council next month?

· Cr. Helen Relph has pointed out that 5,000 people in Woodend corresponds with the Macedon Ranges Shire Local Government Area and Towns Population Projections 2006 - 2036. If Council wants to use its own population projections to justify growth in Woodend, why not use them for all of the towns? That would see the Settlement Strategy's growth levels fall by 1,400 people in Gisborne, 2,200 in Kyneton, 1,200 in Lancefield and 1,700 in Riddells Creek. Overall, Council's projections put 6,000 fewer people in the Shire in 2036 than the Settlement Strategy. What justifies the much higher growth levels in the Settlement Strategy?

The decision Council makes on Wednesday will affect everyone in the Shire until 2036. It's all of our futures being decided.

Be there - Kyneton Town Hall, Wednesday 27 July, 7.00pm.

Email Councillors with your views. Here are contact details for Ward Councillors, and the main towns they represent:

West Ward: Woodend, Kyneton, Malmsbury

[email protected] 5422 6754 0400 025 309

[email protected] 5422 3887 0400 647 445

[email protected] 5427 3089 0400 026 241

South Ward: Gisborne, Macedon, Mt. Macedon

[email protected] 5428 2916 0401 682 364

[email protected] 5428 8941 0418 348 497

[email protected] 5426 4754 0418 398 856

East Ward: Riddells Creek, Romsey, Lancefield

[email protected] ** 5426 1535 0400 034 956

[email protected] * - 0400 028 507

[email protected] 5429 3614 0400 025 455

* Mayor ** Deputy Mayor

MRRA Says:

What's happening at Woodend is unfathomable, and doesn't it make Council look inept and hypocritical... How can anybody have confidence that the Settlement Strategy delivers what the community has asked for?

The solid persistence of high growth intentions at Gisborne, Riddells Creek and Clarkefield really does smack of someone implementing the Committee for Melbourne's 2010 'put southern Macedon Ranges in the metro area' plan. See Archive That may have been the previous State government's intention, but the State government has changed and the current government's policy is to protect Macedon Ranges, not suburbanize it.

We've said it before, and we will say it again: time to get the agendas out of the Settlement Strategy, and put the logical and strategically justified planning principles back in. The document must be able to be held up to the light, and currently it can't be. Wednesday night is the last opportunity to do this.

Councillors are supposed to set policy and strategy. Wednesday night will give residents a chance to see whether it's Council officers, or Councillors, driving the Settlement Strategy in its current deficient form. Residents will see:

Who understands planning, and who doesn't.

Who supports growth compatible with protecting Macedon Ranges from urbanization, and who doesn't.

Who supports agendas, and who doesn't.

Who supports the community, and who doesn't.

Very useful information indeed considering the November 2012 Council election is galloping towards us.

Re: Photo courtesy of Friends of Banyule. "The townhouses would be imposed on this view." No, they would not. See page 16 of the Statement of Heritage Impact, specifically the part where it says: "Given the limited views to the homestead from the public areas of the [Banyule Flats] reserve, and the generous separation of the proposed dwellings from the main historic residence, it is considered that the introduction of the proposed dwellings will not further impact on existing views, or dominate the homestead in these views from the east." Contrary to what your article seems to suggest, a large portion of the money that will come from "all the profits from property taxes, stamp duty, and income from property development" will be put aside to ensure that the Homestead will be "funded and cared for adequately", as outlined on page 15 of the Statement of Heritage Impact: "A sum of $300,000 will be set aside to undertake the conservation and repair works..." For those interested in reading it, the Statement of Heritage Impact for the proposed subdivision and development of new lots at Banyule Homestead can be found here: http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/62495/Heritage-Impact-Statement.pdf This whole thing is not as bad as most people seem to think, and as a long time admirer of the Homestead I'm rather saddened by how quickly people criticize yet another plan to restore it. The last time was around 16 years ago, when the Banyule Council offered the private owner a substantial grant to restore the house, on the condition that the grounds be open to the public. This move was met by massive public backlash, with many residents voicing outrage in the local paper and sarcastically remarking how they too would be happy to open their houses up for that kind of money. It is no wonder the offer quickly disappeared and was forgotten about, with both the private owner and the Banyule Council under fire for daring to even consider such a thing. There is far more to this story than a private owner looking to make a quick buck from subdividing their property, and there is actually a lot more at stake than people realize. There are not many private owners who would be able to put up the cash to restore Banyule Homestead without doing something like this, and even fewer who would be willing to do it by the book and working hand-in-hand with the heritage council. As I have said countless times in arguing this point, no government will do this either. A house, even a heritage homestead, is just a building, and as such it cannot heal over time. Anybody with experience in such things, especially in the Historical Society, will understand that our best chance at preservation is in early restoration, not procrastination. Remember that it is very easy to criticize, but very hard to create; your website is called 'can do better', but can you actually come up with a viable and legal alternative that has not already been tried and failed?

A large contingent of police and DSE officers arrived early this morning. It looks as though warnings will be given and arrests made. Logging is likely to resume today. The Tree-sit has been cleared and logging of Gun Barrel Coupe has recommenced. An emergency community meeting is planned for this evening (Tuesday) at 7:00pm, at the C J Dennis Hall, Main Road, Toolangi. This is to discuss what the community wishes to do next so no press,no pollies.

Dear Andrew, Thank you for your efforts to demand an enquiry into the decision to build a desal plant at Wonthaggi. Whilst we understand that the decision arose from the view at the time that Melbourne might run out of water, the other (and more environmentally friendly) options for providing water supply were not openly scrutinised. Water recycling and rain/stormwater harvesting could supply Melbourne with most of the water it needs, and avoid the use of damaging desal plants and draining our precious waterways. We support an enquiry if it were to explore openly these better options and ensure that there is no second desal plant. We are happy for these comments to be made public on your website site. Best wishes Ian PS >From a personal perspective (not necessarily that of my organisation) I would hope that the enquiry also challenges the growth “fetish” that is one driver for desal plants and other damaging developments.) Ian Penrose Riverkeeper for the Yarra Riverkeeper Association

My feelings on this are encapsulated in the following letter – one of the hundreds I have sent to the media on the subject of the desal plant. I do not belong to any organisation or group, tho I am well acquainted with Neil Rankin and members of Watershed, mainly thru my letters to the newspapers and earlier submissions to the EES. I personally think Brumby is [responsible]. Some examination of this debacle needs to happen
“Brumby should stand trial The recent extraordinary revelations about the desalination plant debacle are shocking enough to demand a public inquiry. Along with the impost of increased water bills, Victorians face a double whammy as their Leighton’s shares plummet with the company’s desal project losses. […] From the start, respected climate scientists and technical experts advised against this plant. They were quashed, ignored, ridiculed. Premier Brumby pushed this project through under clouds of secrecy, bypassing established rules, ignoring checks and balances. Already with a trail of failed projects, well demonstrating his ignorance of large infrastructure projects, he takes on the second largest desal plant in the world, “fast-tracking” to completion, avoiding scrutiny while bragging about his world-first financial deal. Brumby must be brought to account. […] He should not be allowed to profit from this experience. Victorians need to know how this happened and how to prevent a dictatorial premier, Labor or Liberal, from playing fast and loose with our money ever again.”
I also believe the media is accountable for failing to inform the people of Melbourne [adequately] about the whole desal affair. I have been following this issue from the very beginning because we have the pipeline thru our property. Media coverage in the Melbourne papers was abysmal. Melbournians by and large did not have a clue what was going on with the desal plant. Intelligent, usually well-informed people just looked confused when ever the desal was raised. The Age rarely mentioned the project. I sent in many letters to the Age – only a couple were ever published. The only good journalism in the Age was from Kenneth Davidson. Some of Kenneth’s revelations would have been worthy of front page headlines yet they were printed back in the Opinion section and usually on a Monday. Melissa Fyfe has more recently taken over from him as the only Age commenter on desal matters. December 2009 the Brumby Gang were still talking $3.1 billion. The AquaSure contract had just been put on the internet. Its location was obscure and I stumbled upon it. Most real information was blotted out but the figure of $5.7 billion was quite clearly stated as the total cost. I immediately wrote a letter to the Age about this blow-out. Within hours of my email I received a telephone call from one of the Age editors who asked me where I got the information. I gave instructions on how to find it. I heard no more from them. They did not publish my letter nor did they report the $5.7 billion themselves. It was several months before the $5.7 was publicly revealed. Why??? It seemed to me that, in the beginning Jon Faine 774, at times refused to take calls from people in this area. Those that did manage to trick their way in were treated like lunatics or just cut off. There was better coverage when he went off on his trip – I think Walid Ali took over during that time. Only after he had returned and after the shit had hit the fan did Faine allow any serious desal debate. I would support a Royal Commission – if that is the appropriate process. I am not clear on the terms of reference or possible outcomes for a Royal Commission v any other type of process. I think this type of corruption is endemic within Victorian public office and has been practiced for so many years that people in office no longer know appropriate from inappropriate actions. Whatever process occurs it needs to be very carefully conducted to ensure it does not become a whitewash and the matter laid to rest for ever. Lyn W

The Murdock press are so biased and quite content to openly push their big-business and corporate agendas onto what are meant to be "news" papers. They openly support population growth, the growth pushers vs the nimbys, and trivialize environmental issues and climate change. They are hardly worth reading, however, our newspapers and media are what the public use to be informed. Without media diversity, we are limited in our facts, our knowledge, and an open and unbiased reporting of issues in the world today. We need independent press, balanced reporting, exposure of corruption, and that is what we should be getting more of from sites like candobetter.net.

Thanks, Agent Provocateur, Quark and Fiona,

Whilst I generally favour the reduction of working hours if that can be achieved through labour-saving technology, it should be outlawed whilst any single individual is unable to attain gainful employment in order to meet his/her life expenses. The gross social irresponsibility and heartlessness of one large retail corporation in refusing to hire sufficient staff to attend to customer needs even without self-serve technology should be obvious to anyone who tries to shop in a K-Mart store as I did last Saturday. Even to pay for goods I intended to buy, let alone to make a query of staff in a store almost empty of staff, I had to wait in a queue. No doubt if, unable to pay for the goods I wanted, I had attempted to walk out the front of the store with them, I would have very quickly received 'service' from the store's security staff.

As long as a singe person, who needs gainful employment (that is a real job with award rates of pay and conditions of work and not slave wage 'occupations' such as taxi-driving) does not have it, these stores should be boycotted.

Whether or not the Creepy Self Service Machines are viable from a business point of view or helpful from a customer's point of view- is probably irrelevent at this time. The point is, that with 7 Billion People on the planet who all need jobs to pay their bills (including the food bill) - there is no good reason for a machine. ... And further more, Governments couldn't continue to penalise people for being unemployed if job cutting by creepy self service machines is allowed to go on. ... And Governments do punish people who can't find jobs... by making them stand in queues to fill in forms to declare their ineptitude in finding meaningful, gainful employment. I'm sure that readers here, can follow my drift; in a capitalist society - isn't a machine going to be the undoing of it all? Capitalists... those at the top of the shit pile that is - surely have a vested interest in having those at the bottom of the shit pile to at least having enough money to buy their shit? How can it all be sustained if the shit kicker at the bottom of the shit pile has been replaced by a creepy self service machine? There'd be no -body left to buy the shit. A Ponzi scheme if ever I saw one!

The subtitle of the book "The Corporation" "the pathological pursuit of profit and power" applies very well in the supermarket example. Some are denied jobs while others are denied human interaction and real service. Nothing matters but profit as we , the customers have the added drag of scanning items and trying to reason with a machine which announces "unexpected item..!!" I look at these automatic checkouts and try to figure out how they are more efficient or faster. Is it that more of them can be fitted into a given space? Perhaps, but as the author of the article says, it's about wages, holiday pay, and all the other non- rights of an automaton that help to increase profits when real people are dispensed with. I also think that tram conductors should be brought back to Melbourne trams . How have our public transport experiences improved since their removal? It seems we, the public can't afford any more the services we value and we can't afford them because of the of the profit imperative. Who is better off? As the author notes, prices in supermarkets have not come down!

I was very sorry to read the account of your neighbor. I have almost no contact with my neighbors, and I suppose that is not unusual. I do think idealizing the past as allowing more leisure can be misleading and is entirely dependent on specific place and time. I doubt that the slaves in Egypt or indentured servants in the US had excess free time to write poetry or spend with family - and in fact, in many eras, families were far more hierarchical and abusive towards women and children than they are now. I also question whether it's necessary for both partners in a marriage to work in industrial society to "survive". It is all relative, and except for the abject poor (a rank that is obviously now on the increase) in the US many working couples consider appliances and lifestyles to be essential that in other parts of the world would be regarded as the greatest luxuries. Having said that I agree that the tradeoff of time for consumer goods has been cynically engineered by skilled marketing firms in service to our corporate overlords. We don't have to behave like sheep but there seems to be a predisposition to do so, and so people who could choose otherwise wind up going deep into debt for non-necessities. C'est la guerre.

Andrew/Sheila Clearly this development has no social licence. The development received Government approval before any environmental effects were considered. There was no assessment of the major environmental effects including the option of doing nothing. Also there was no consultation with the community about the alternatives of the present ownership/operation arrangement compared with the alternative of 100% government ownership/operation. If the latter had been chosen the plant could have lain idle/been shut down. A Royal Commission could explore all these issues which are important for the future of this and other projects. Geoff (Dr) Geoff Mosley Australian Director Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy The CASSE position on economic growth may be e-signed at:http://www.steadystate.org/CASSEPositionOnEG.html Hurstbridge Victoria 3099

"I think this would be a fine idea. Always interested to know how they justify such a waste of our hard earned dollars to destroy the environment. Who is responsible for that terrible, arrogant contract that we supposedly can’t get out of? Wendy R"

MEDIA RELEASE Anger as logging begins at controversial Sylvia Creek forest near Melbourne Friday, 22 July 2011 VicForests has sent the chainsaws into the Sylvia Creek forest on Melbourne’s north east fringe, despite conceding that the area contains old-growth trees more than 110 years old. Over 100 people protested at the site near Toolangi last weekend, forcing both VicForests and the Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) to conduct new surveys to check the forest’s environmental values. “DSE has confirmed the logging coupe contains old growth trees, even though VicForests and Government Minister Louise Asher insisted last week that it was not old growth forest,” said Wilderness Society forest campaigner Luke Chamberlain. "We demand an acknowledgment from the then Acting Premier that she has either been deceived by VicForests or she herself has misled the public. Louise Asher must apologise to the people of Toolangi." “As a result of community action, VicForests has been forced to remove three hectares of old growth and rainforest from their logging plans, but they have sent the chainsaws into the remaining forest today.” DSE and VicForests claim that the area being logged is not suitable habitat for the endangered Leadbeater's Possum, but expert scientists and conservationists disagree. “Over half the Leadbeater's Possum’s forest habitat was destroyed in the Black Saturday bushfires, so every last bit that survives is incredibly precious, and essential to this tiny animals’ survival,” said spokesperson for local group ‘My Environment’ Sarah Rees. “The criteria the government is using to identify Leadbeater's Possum habitat are too conservative. We’re talking about Victoria’s wildlife emblem, we should be making sure they multiply and flourish, not simply cling on to the edge of survival.” “The local community is up in arms about losing this beautiful, high conservation value forest, and is planning further protests.” The Burned Area Emergency Response Report (BAER) commissioned by the Brumby Government after the 2009 bushfires recommended preserving refuge areas such as those in Toolangi for biodiversity recovery. Note: photos of Leadbeater's Possum available on request For comment - Luke Chamberlain, The Wilderness Society 0424 098 729 - Sarah Rees, My Environment Inc. 0438 368 870 Our State government is showing complete disregard for community concerns, for the intrinsic biodiversity value of these old-growth trees, and for wildlife that is being pushed further towards extinction. The forests may have survived Black Saturday, but vandalism with chain saws might be beyond their ability to endure and survive,

With a cost variously estimated at $6 billion- $20 billion (over the next decade) and a good chance it will never be used, the Wonthaggi desal plant is a colossal white elephant. Conceived in haste and rammed through with scant regard for planning processes, the public has a right to know the whole sordid story. And we want our money back.

Brumby's desal plant was part of a madman's solution for his 'Big Melbourne' brainsnap.

The company that built the desal plant at Wonthaggi for Brumby, has suffered financially ever since.
Leighton Holdings was profit greedy, ignorant of social impacts, ignorant of environmental impacts and just plain dumb to listen to Brumby and commit hundreds of millions in an extravagance that was unnecessary anyway.

The following article from a week ago shows how dumb Leighton's really was:

Leighton faces further pain

by Philip Wen, 16 July 2011, The Age...

LEIGHTON Holdings may have put its boardroom drama aside for now, but concerns of more profit downgrades have emerged before the embattled contracting company's full-year results next month.

A string of delays and cost blowouts at some of its key projects, including Brisbane's Airport Link and the Victorian desalination plant project, culminated in a $1.1 billion pre-tax write-down and a $757 million capital raising in April.

But analysts warn there remains significant risk of up to $400 million in further downgrades to come, casting doubt on the company's net profit guidance of between $600 million and $650 million for this financial year.

An analyst at Goldman Sachs, Chris Savage, said the construction of the desalination plant has continued to be delayed by wet weather, which could lower earnings on the project by ''anywhere up to $200 million'' - wiping out the wafer-thin $6 million profit the company currently expects. The project was originally forecast to make $288 million. (Brumby numbers were they?)

Craig Wong-Pan, a Deutsche Bank analyst, said industrial relations disputes at the project added even more risk of further cost blowouts. Industrial action erupted after Leighton subsidiary Thiess was caught spying on staff late last year. A more recent four-day strike is said to have cost Thiess up to $5 million a day. The project has also made headlines for a lucrative wages deal struck by the Victorian branch of the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union.

Wages at the plant are as much as 40 per cent higher than equivalent projects in other states, even prompting Premier Ted Baillieu to voice ''significant concern'' over the project's rising costs.

Both analysts also warned of further downgrades at Leighton's struggling Middle Eastern joint venture Al-Habtoor

Despite Leighton having written down more than half of the value of its 45 per cent stake since 2007, Mr Wong-Pan said the venture's $525 million carrying value was still ''aggressive'' given poor cash flow and trouble in recovering payments from debtors.

Leighton had been destabilised by a takeover row over its German parent Hochtief by Spanish construction giant ACS, as well as persistent rumours suggesting long-serving former chief executive Wal King would make a shock return to Leighton's board. Mr King last month ruled out such a return.

Shares in Leighton closed at $20.86 yesterday, down more than 40 per cent since October.

(Reference: http://www.theage.com.au/business/leighton-faces-further-pain-20110715-1hhzq.html)

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John Brumby is able to retire comfortably with his family surrounded by wealth and good fortune, but has left the mess behind for the people of Victoria to keep paying more and more for one of life's very basics - water! The Ponzi investment scheme of population growth continues to see the least-able and lower socio-economic groups grapple paying for housing, energy and water, while the elite can wallow in their fortunes and skim the cream off the top of the pyramid. A typical tradesman on the desalination project in Wonthaggi is set to earn about $150,000 a year for a four-day week under a deal that has also seen the resolution of a bitter union turf war threatening to delay the project. Premier Ted Baillieu says wages at the Wonthaggi desalination plant are pushing up construction salary demands statewide. However, the costs will be borne by the public even if they never use any water! Being over 15 months behind this massive project has been plagued by rain and wind since 2007. The Premier of Victoria Ted Baillieu says 'We cannot break the contract for the Wonthaggi desalination plant" - so we are lumped by the Brumby's government's greed, lack of planning, and push to please the growth pushers at our expense. "Ecological overshoot" is when we exhaust our ecological budget for the year, and take more than Nature provides - such as water! Compensating is financially costly as water is extremely expensive and energy-consuming to produce artificially.

From article, Bahrain: Washington and London Endorse Dialogue With Tyrants, War Criminals and Torturers of 20 July 2011 by Finian Cunningham on Global Research:

Efforts by the US and British-backed Bahraini regime to repair its international image over human rights violations are in tatters with the revelation that senior members of the oil kingdom’s royal family have been personally involved in torturing hundreds of civilian detainees, including doctors and nurses.

One of the torturers-in-chief is Captain Nasser Al Khalifa, son of the king. He graduated this year “with honours” from the US Marine Corps University at Qantico, Washington.

This criminal rule by inner-circle members of the House of Al Khalifa also exposes Washington and London’s efforts to positively talk up reforms and dialogue by their Persian Gulf ally as a cynical sham. In Libya and Syria, war and sanctions are declared against alleged human rights abusers. But in Bahrain, Washington and London say pro-democracy protesters must embrace the rulers’ so-called initiative for national dialogue.

Revelations of royal family brutality in Bahrain also make a mockery of King Hamad’s announcement last month of an “independent” human rights probe into violations that took place during the Western-backed Saudi-led military invasion of the oil-rich kingdom earlier this year.

Yet again Washington and London had trumpeted this move as a positive step to reform in the Gulf kingdom, where a minority unelected Sunni elite has ruled over a majority Shia population for 40 years since nominal independence from Britain in 1971.

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Australia keeps growing, but not maturing

The tallest woman on Earth, Yao Defen, died because she didn't stop growing. The cause turned out to be a cancer in her pituitary gland

There are stages in the growth of all people. The first is physical growth to the early teens. During that period there is much learning of facts and a mental growth through what are called "concrete" stages of learnings. After that, the physical growth should stop, and be followed by a mental growth - that which psychologist Jan Piaget calls the "formal" thinking stage. As in Physical growth, there is a need for challenges and exercises in mental growth to achieve this formal level of thinking*. Without these challenges and experiences, even whole cultures will not "grow" to the formal stage, although their cultures may operate very well because the people are easily manipulated by privileged leaders who can think formally.

The same with of cities. Growth to maturity is good, but accepting unlimited population/area growth is ignorance or it is caused by the cancer of greed.

It is the rich and powerful Gordon Geckos of this world whose paid media pervade the media with the self-serving mantra that unlimited population growth of cities is good. That is because unlimited growth is what is making them rich and powerful of course. However, there are a few quiet intelligentsia who are saying that it's time for the Governments of the country to get on top of the Geckos. Australia is far from a mature country. In Australia, Geckos reign supreme, due to the unthinking acquiescence of Parliament who are kept irrelevant by the unthinking acquiescence of a docile public.

On the other hand, there are countries and cities that reject physical growth, who are light year ahead of Australia because they have attained the stage of smart growth - Japan, South Korea, Singapore the Scandinavian countries and many more. They recognise the folly of growing population, instead they grow intellectually smarter.

Here in Australia we create special pedestals for "think tanks" but the government ignores them in favour of groups of compliant and overrated people who can rationalise the reasons for implementing developers' schemes. They are not think-tanks, they are merely another purchasable commodity.

To have a growth of population in a mainly desert country like Australia with no significant water supplies - rivers, is muddle-headed hara-kiri. We are well past the physical limits of our renewable resources. We now need a growth of wisdom and maturity and the kind of planning that goes with wisdom and maturity. The planning structures we have now are premised on a growth of population. Instead we need different structures to enable good planners to implement mature planning. Plopping surplus humans into tickey-tackey boxes on "surplus" green fields or brown fields or purple fields or pink fields is an insult to mature thinking and to the competent planners we have in Australia.

When we run out of energy.

Our Western way of living is dependent on using far more energy than is our share. But everybody demands the same quality of living which they reasonably equate with the amount of energy we use. It is the available energy that we have now that provides for the energy-dependent foods we squander. By 2060, fifty more years, this abundant energy will have been used up. The consequences of this is that we will be dependent on the food we grow ourselves within walking distance of where our one-room house is. Perhaps you might believe the people who constantly tell us that by then we will have found some new energy source. But consider this: in 1950 the wisest scientists predicted that fusion energy would cater for all future energy needs, and so squillions of dollars have been spent in the past 60 years trying to get it to work, without success. We are no nearer to achieving it than we were 60 years ago. That is probably because of the physical problems of containing and using the pressures and heat of fusion energy. Remember, it was less than a kilogram of hydrogen that produced the largest ever explosion.

A sad metaphor is the case of Yao Defen whose over-growth killed her. The cancer in Australia's case is developers who either can’t or won’t think formally. Why should they? Wealth and power is there for the taking, politicians and lawyers are easily bought, so the Gordon Geckos "logically" ask why not make a killing - literally. And it will surely kill or enslave us. If we continue along this path, the Geckos may soon be living in luxury in countries like ours that they own absolutely.

* Actually Piaget described two levels of formal thinking.

It seems that decades after we were promised that computerisation would lead to the "paperless office", if anything, it seems, instead, to have led to an astronomical increase in the consumption of paper, particularly Reflex A4 copy paper made from chopped Victorian rainforests referred to by Vivienne. An office cleaner, I know spends much of his day throwing out large volumes of out-of-date glossy printed material. It is time that Government offices and private offices had a closer look at their printing practices. They should ask: Is it really necessary to print out, in such large volumes, material that most recipients would be able to read from their computer screens anyway? Whilst a totally paperless office may not be a realisable ideal, we could certainly should have been able to go a long way further towards reducing the amount of printing which is helping Reflex to profit so much at the expense of our rainforests and their inhabitants.

According to the Department of Sustainability and Environment, the forest being logged contains critically endangered Leadbeaters Possum, rainforest of state significance and Mountain Ash tree. "Save Sylvia (creek)" was launched in order to protect a beautiful piece of unburnt Old Growth forest just 500 metres from Wirra Willa. A popular tourist destination and old rainforest. It's yet another unburnt forest being chopped for Australian papers REFLEX copy paper. There are ferns in the understorey that could be as old as from the 13th century AD. These towering ferns are 8-10 metres tall and occur alongside the endangered Tree Geebung and old Mountain Pepper. How could this be in any sense "sustainable"? They can't grow back within even centuries! Acting Premier: Ms Asher or call her and let her know what you think: [email protected] 03 9596 9680 Preliminary studies have found the forests meet Leadbeaters Habitat Zone. Victoria is under the control of big business interests and corporations that are undermining the interests of the public, and democratic processes. Common sense and enlightened environmental knowledge and understanding should be the priority in these times, yet we still have State governments vandalizing our heritage and pushing species further to extinction.

Thank you, Bandicoot, for telling us about where that cheap paper you buy at Officeworks comes from. Does anyone know of paper that is made from Australian plantation timber? I would rather pay for that.

It's hard for me to understand how the UK Parliament could have turned on Murdoch in this way. Surely it is largely composed of members almost hand-picked by Murdoch? For decades it has seemed that Murdoch has been able to pick and choose governments in countries all over the world and have whichever Government was in power implement policies to his liking. A recent example was the way Murdoch was able to get the 'Labor' Government of Tony Blair, elected in 1997, to implement precisely the dry Thatcherite "free market" policies of its Conservative predecessor.

I remember reading in 1997 a curious editorial in The Australian newspaper which proclaimed that the election of the Blair Labor Government was an endorsement by British voters of years of "free market" rule by Blair's Conservative predecessors. That would certainly have been news to British voters who voted Labor for, amongst other reasons, its promise to keep the railways in public ownership. Blair didn't keep that promise and, in general, continued with his predecessor's "free market" 'reforms'.

Blair also enlisted the UK's support in a number of wars started by the US. These included the so-called "War on Terror," for which the false-flag terrorist attack of 9/11 was used as a pretext, and the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003, based on the claim known by Blair to be lie that Iraq was building weapons of mass destruction.

The Australian's editorial was presumably Murdoch's way of telling the Australian Business establishment that he had the new UK 'Labor' Government in its pocket. The record of the Blair Government since then bears out Murdoch's 1997 pronouncement.

How the the tables have turned on Murdoch, only 14 years later and only 5 years after the departure of his glove-puppet, Tony Blair from office in 2006.

Protesters will walk into the logging exclusion zone at Sylvia Creek, near Toolangi, in a bid to stop logging work. Mr Chamberlain, spokesperson for the Wilderness Society, said the area included mountain ash trees which were home to the endangered Leadbeater's possum, Victoria's animal emblem. Victoria’s Central Highlands, an hour north of Melbourne have suffered years of bushfires, destructive salvage logging and reckless logging for woodchips to be made into Reflex paper products. What irony! Julia Gillard will spend millions on advertising the carbon tax, and consumers will suffer paying more for power, but our State government will release copious amounts of stored sequestered carbon into the atmosphere and destroy old growth trees for short-term financial benefits! We are in the hands of a vandalistic State government with no scruples or environmental credentials whatsoever! These trees take centuries to grow, and nothing about their destruction is "sustainable"! Most of these ancient trees will be wood-chipped to make Reflex paper.

Prominently displayed in the current issue of the Australian 'socialist' magazine links.org.au is a piece celebrating the 30th anniversary of the mass protests against the New Zealand tour of the South African white-only Springbok Rugby Union team. At the time our televisions were full of images of radical students confronting lines of New Zealand police as well as spectacular actions on the football stadeums themselves to embarass the Springboks and the New Zealand Rugby Union board.

The protest helped further isolate the white-supremacist South African government leading to its downfall in 1993, and replacement with today's multi-party South African government. This was definitely an advancement for humanity, but according to Chapter 10 Democracy born in chains (pp194-217) of Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine of 2007 brought mixed blessings brought to black, coloured and white South Africans by the government committed to 'free market' reforms.

So what of the effects of the protests in New Zealand itself and the South Pacific?

Political theory, espoused by 'Marxist' organisations such as the Socialist Workers Party of Australia as the producers of links.org.au were then known, holds that radical protests will inevitably radicalise broader layers of society and make more likely the transition from capitalism to socialism and a more just and rational society. Yet in New Zealand, precisely the reverse happened in subsequent years. To be sure, the protests led to the downfall of the Conservative Government of Robert Muldoon, but if, anything, the replacement 'Labour' Government of David Lange was economically far to the right. The Wikipedia article on Davide Lange describes his government's record:

Upon coming to office, Lange's government uncovered a skyrocketing public debt, ostensibly the result of Muldoon's policy of government regulation of the economy, including a wage- and price-freeze and regulation of the exchange rate. Such economic conditions prompted Lange to remark: "We ended up being run very similarly to a Polish shipyard".[3] Lange and Minister of Finance Roger Douglas engaged in a rapid programme of deregulation and public-asset sales, which brought criticism from many people in Labour's traditional support-base. The Labour Party also lost support from many elderly people by introducing a superannuation surcharge after having promised not to reduce superannuation.

Commentators coined the term Rogernomics for these policies, drawing connections with Reaganomics and with Thatcherism. After the Lange administration's first term (1984–1987), significant divisions started to form in the Labour parliamentary caucus, with Lange becoming uncomfortable with the extent of the reforms, while Douglas and Richard Prebble wanted to push on.

The Shock Doctrine could have also used a chapter on the Lange' Government. A question that could have been addressed was what was done during those years by all those who had protested so fiercely for social justice during 1981? Did they lose their voices as Lange was privatising the wealth the belonged to them or were they co-opted into working for Lange and the vested interests they served?

Another question that could have been addressed is whether other means to protest against the Springbok tour could have been found? Clearly the violent confrontations between radical protestors and police were not good publicity for Muldoon, The New Zealand Rugby board and the Apartheid regime of South Africa, but supposing the anti-Apartheid protestors had found less confrontational ways to get their message out? In all likelihood, I suspect participation in the protests would have been greater and larger numbers of New Zealanders would have gained a political education and have been less willing to tolerate the Rogernomics that was imposed upon them in subsequent years.

VILLAWOOD Properties executive director Rory Costelloe has accused the Macedon Ranges Council of attempting to restrain land supply in Woodend. The developers are proposing to build a 650-lot subdivision, Davies Hill, by the Avenue of Honour outside Woodend.

The catch-cry of the chronic shortage of "affordable housing" is being used to justify more "developments" to keep up the rate of constructions. It's a ruse, a scam, a smoke-screen that is being used to quieten dissent while housing has deliberately been forced in increase in price by successive State governments.

The demand for housing has been created by our population growth, and guarantees that there will be no closure to the "shortage" of housing. It's a quick way to guarantee work for construction builders and an easy way to fill banks with money! It's not Planning but about caving into a free-market, deliberately allowing developers access to our suburbs.
Macedon Ranges Residents As Leg 4 sociation secretary Christine Pruneau said the tone of the campaign by Villawood Properties had angered residents.

“If you look at the marketing material, it looks like a fait accompli and it is creating a lot of confusion,” she said.

According to Macedon Ranges mayor,

“The Calder corridor is growing and could mean more wards are required there,” he said.

A realignment of ward boundaries is simply a way to break up any Council objections and spread their power - divide and conquer!

My curiosity for a reason for the near total silence, if not outright support for the war against Libya by virtually all of the 'Marxist' left in Australia and elsewhere led me to do online research about what these groups are doing, or not doing, these days, that is when they are not baiting opponents of immigration as 'racist', stacking meetings of other organisations such as Prosper Australia or the Tasmanian Unemployed Union's nut shop as they did in 1984.

I discovered links.org.au a "journal of socialist renewal". I hope to be able to learn, from its pages, how socialism in Australia, a country for which socialism has always, in recent decades, surely been a viable political program, ever faltered and needed 'renewing'.

Please visit Global Research and view pictures in Libya in Pictures: What the Mainstream Media Does Not Tell You by Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya. (Text but not images, follow):

Global Research reports from Tripoli

Mirage fighters, F16 fighters, B-2 Stealth bombers, 15,000 NATO air sorties. the bombing of thousands of civilian targets...

NATO is said to be coming to the rescue of the Libyan people. That is what we are being told.

Western journalists have quite deliberately distorted what is happening inside Libya. They have upheld NATO as an instrument of peace and democratization.

They have endorsed an illegal and criminal war.

They are instruments of US-NATO propaganda.

Global Research's Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya reporting from Tripoli refutes the media consensus which uphold's NATO's humanitarian mandate. He provides us with a review of the mass rallies directed against NATO including extensive photographic evidence.

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Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research, July 15, 2011

TRIPOLI. July 15, 2011.

Friday of July 1, 2011 like many other Fridays has seen huge rallies in Tripoli's Green Square.

It’s very hard to get an accurate number of the mass of people that have attended these rallies. Estimates have placed the size of the July 1st rally in Green Square at one million people. (See the GRTV Video report by ANSWER with Cynthia McKinney and Ramsey Clark)

The rallies have been taking place almost weekly in Tripoli and other Libyan cities, including Sabha on July 8, 2011.

Western public opinion has been misinformed. People in Europe and North America are not even aware that these mass rallies have taken place.

The rallies express the Libyan people's firm opposition to NATO's "humanitarian" intervention ("on behalf of the Libyan people").

The large majority of the population are opposed to the Benghazi-based Transitional Council.

The rallies also indicate significant popular support for Colonel Qaddafi in contrast to the usual stereotype descriptions of the Western media.

The mainstream media has either casually dismissed the significance of these public gatherings directed against NATO intervention or has failed to even report them.

These rallies continue late into the night.

The following are pictures of Libyans converging on Green Square on July 1, 2011.

These pictures also show that the mainstream media was present and aware of these rallies.

So what is preventing them from reporting the truth?

Why are some of these journalists claiming that only a few thousand people attended?

It is important to note that the pictures were taken at the outset of the event.

Libyans headed throughout the day into the night towards Green Square. Highways and roads leading towards Green Square were packed.

Households are a soft target to pay the price of carbon emissions. The 500 "big polluters" too is a start, but it ignores so many ways of sequestering and storing carbon. Using the free market to punish the "polluters" means that ways of protecting and storing carbon are overlooked. There is no talk yet of stopping logging of native forests, land clearing, revegetation programs, or of more public transport. Our diets are a main source of emissions, yet swapping to a veg*n diet would go a long way to cutting personal and net emissions. By being the largest exporter of coal, we are sending the "carbon pollution" overseas, where consumers are likely to find it cheaper than we in Australia do. Population growth again is the "elephant in the room". Populations grow and prospered due to cheap power and engineering/medical advances, and winding back the clock won't come without pain. However, it is ignored in the equation and the efforts to cut emissions. Householders and families are the easy targets, and will be punished for their use of energy, while those pushing for perpetual growth and consumption will be able to afford to pay.

The sadistic abuse and killings of western grey joeys in Western Australia continues unabated. Articles in community newspapers and "The West Australian" yesterday reveal the horrors inflicted on these native animals particularly in the rapidly developing area of Mandurah.

In one of the most extreme examples of animal torture I have ever read a kangaroo was ripped apart by 2 cars:

"We had a roo basically pulled apart by two cars, yeah there were still things tied around its legs" kangaroo relocater Allison Dixon told 6PR radio earlier this week.

These events continue to occur on a weekly basis and have been attributed to the rapid human population growth in the area which is amongst the highest in the country. I have witnessed populations of development locked kangaroos in this area which unfortunately cannot be relocated fast enough by Allison Dixon and her team. It would appear that WA planners still believe that wildlife corridors and roads are one and the same thing ...

More news not reported either in the mainsteam media or in the pro-war, pro-bombing 'socialist' newspaper I referred to in the article. The following is from the Global Research article French government manoeuvres for resolution to Libyan war of 13 July by Patrick O’Connor:

Also on Sunday, the Algerian newspaper El Khabar published an interview with Gaddafi’s son, Saif al-Islam, who claimed that negotiations were already underway with the French government. “The truth is that we are negotiating with France and not with the rebels,” Saif al-Islam said. “Our envoy to Sarkozy said that the French president was very clear, and told him, ‘We created the [Transitional National] Council, and without our support, and money, and our weapons, the council would have never existed’. France said: ‘When we reach an agreement with you, we will force the council to cease fire’.”

Radiation from Chernobyl was found in many parts of the world in birds that traveled through the site’s exclusion zone, senior research professor emeritus I. Lehr Brisbin said, and birds flying along Japan’s coastline could be similarly affected. Radioecologists trying to define the extent of species mutations or population changes will need good data on bird migration routes. Studies found birds contaminated in Chernobyl winter in North Africa, the Mediterranean and southern Europe. The Fukushima incident, Brisbin said, also underscores the need for education programs in radioecology, the study of how radiation affects the environment. Along with the radiation that was found in the air, radiation from Fukushima’s reactors was also found in the water and milk of some cities in Washington. There are revelations that at least one of Fukushima's reactors suffered sufficient damage from the earthquake that hit the region ... prior to the tsunami! The Japanese government has warned that unless more reactors are restarted the country might experience power shortages. What is surprising is that Japan itself, despite the fact that it is the one hit by nuclear disaster, rejected the proposal to exit nuclear energy. UAE and Iran are also in favor of nuclear energy. In Australia, the former chair of Austrialian Nuclear Science and technology organisation, Ziggy Switkowski and Australia federal minister for Resources, Martin Ferguson support nuclear energy. Martin Ferguson had said that Australia's ability to meet its energy needs would not be sabotaged by the Fukushima disaster. Read more: Japan Fukushima Nuclear Accident may not Sabotage the World Energy Needs of 8 Jul 11 at http://technorati.com/politics/article/japan-fukushima-nuclear-accident-... "Big Australia" will mean the failure of the carbon tax to reduce carbon emissions, and nuclear power as inevitable!

Another story not reported in the pro-war corporate newsmedia, nor the 'socialist'/'Marxist'/'left-wing' media referred to in the article above is Reporter’s Notebook: Reading the Rebels in Western Libya, Part I. To be sure, the report is in a blog of a New York Time reporter, but its content hardly made any impact on the overwhelming pro-war bias to-date of its front-page coverage to date. Today, with so little news to report that puts the war against Libya in a good light, the story is barely visible on the front page of the NYT. This story was linked to from The Atlantic story In Libya, Allied Forces Grapple With Unanticipated Obstacles. The 'left-wing' newspapers referred to in the article still have barely any front-page coverage of Libya or Syria. Certainly none have any new coverage as of today.

I agree entirely with the article. It seems that, overwhelmingly, human political response to atrocity is either entirely inadequate or grossly misdirected. Accordingly, refugee consciousness seems to be driven by a cabal of politically self-interested svengalis and made momentous by a swollen herd of conceptually compliant sheep bleating brainlessly behind them. The sudanese situation is prime example of this condition. What have Govts' done, and what has the Refugee movement done, to seek to quell this awful situation at source over the past umpteen years of its unravelment? The necessary action was, in large part, much simpler and more straightforward than the action taken by 'good' nations in Iraq and Afghanistan in the name of 'justice'. The horror in Sudan has murdered millions of people and made homeless millions more. The recognition of South Sudan as a sovereign state seems very little much too late and even now al-Bashir continues to act with violent aggression across the new borders. So it seems that refugees will continue to come from this place. They are a large group, clearly in dire need, but one which perhaps includes some of the most difficult people to re-settle due to their deep trauma and habituation to patterns of violence. What have the various refugee action groups done over the past decades to push for resolution at source? I'm sure the refugees would much prefer such local resolution. Sadly, and infuriatingly, I suspect they are merely grist to the activists' political mill.

New Zealand has refused entry to a boat load of Sri Lankan asylum seekers, saying it would only open the door to "millions of others" and reward people smugglers. Prime Minister Mr Key said New Zealand took in 750 refugees a year and would not accept anyone who did not follow the normal channels. The asylum-seekers, now moored at off the coast of Sumatra, have refused to leave their ship, with a spokesman for the group yesterday afternoon saying they remained determined to make it to New Zealand. Of course, once they are installed in New Zealand, they will legally make their way to Australia. Australia is a magnet to the world's "refugees" due to our high immigration rate - it's a "welcome" mat! The 1951 Refugee convention is outdated and should be negated. There are too many "refugees" simply escaping poverty, conflict, overpopulation and looking for a better life. Australia's living standards are declining and costs soaring. 'There are literally millions of people in this category. It's not a simple thing to just say 'let's take this boat in and be good citizens'. Denmark has just introduced a very superficial border control – to stop the immigration flow from the Euromediterranean from submerging Denmark. The Schengen Agreement eliminating internal border controls is considered to be a milestone of European integration. No single European Union policy has generated as much enthusiasm among the citizens of Europe as the freedom of borderless travel. A half century ago 77 million of the globe’s people were immigrants, meaning they live in a place different from their place of birth; today the figure has nearly tripled to 214 million, increasing at nearly two per cent annually. Some 25,000 Tunisian migrants arrived on European coasts this past month. But instead of welcoming them, France and Italy are fighting for a way to get rid of them. Mediterranean border nations, such as Greece, Italy, Malta and Spain, regularly complain that the EU neglects immigration, burdening them with the costs of illegal immigration. French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his Italian counterpart, Silvio Berlusconi, both decided to send a letter to the European Commission asking to reinforce the Frontex agency – the European border police – but also seeking to reform the Schengen agreement or to suspend it. Maybe they should take an example from New Zealand and say enough is enough!

Immigration lets the hoards in. The States are forced to cope with the social and economic congestion, burden, and stresses and Australian environmental degradation. There is nothing complex about the problem. The root cause is federal immigration policy allowing and inviting hoards of foreigners to pressure Australia's resources. The problem is the Australian government, be it Gillard, Rudd or Abbott is encouraging the influx and so degrading Australia's landscape, society and economy. If enough of the hoards arrive and breed, the problems of the third world will become Australia's. Shifting breeders just shifts the human problem, but it doesn't solve it. Human containment and sterilisation is the only ethical solution. Unethical solutions exist and will become options while ignorant people remain ignorant. War, genocide and famine are some of those other options from history that keep repeating themselves due to recurring selective ignorance. Tigerquoll Suggan Buggan Snowy River Region Victoria 3885 Australia

On June 25, six indigenous activists were reportedly killed and dozens more wounded when Peruvian police opened fire on a 4000-strong crowd occupying the Manco Capac airport in the city of Juliaca. On the same day, a mining concession granted to Vancouver-based Bear Creek Mining was annulled by the Peruvian government. The English language press misconstrued the massacre as having been related directly to Bear Creek, when in fact protesters there were protesting other mining projects and a proposed mega-dam. There are no environmental policies, no social justice considerations, and little of the wealth trickles down to the traditional landowners. Departing President Alan Garcia, whose tenure has been marred by conflicts over natural resources that have killed nearly 100 people over the past three years, said the mostly indigenous protesters were making a show of force to get a slice of power in the government of President-elect Ollanta Humala, who takes office on July 28 - a very narrow win! In Peru, “development” means mining at the expense of local agriculturalists the hardy, resourceful people who support themselves at near subsistence level. They have been consistently undermined by the Lima-based governing class through two decades of “free market” policies. This economic growth has done nothing to help the citizens of Peru reach out towards 21st century living conditions. There are many still living in the dark-ages of lack of sanitation, power, water, schools and health care. Another round of bloodshed brings the number of documented killings in recent days to nine. There are not human rights in Peru, supposedly a modern country making economic progress. These protesters are protecting their territory from invading and polluting foreign mining companies. The poverty in Peru is extreme, despite economic growth and mining profits. The killing of protesters is simply a total abuse of human rights and environmental destruction.

Our aging population crisis is being solved (?) or addressed by adding more young immigrants and babies to our population. The demographic bulge of baby-boomers was caused by high birth rates and immigration rates after WW11 and into the 1950s. The same phenomenon that caused the problem can't also the the solution - as Einstein says!

There's been no backdown of our government's target to increase our population to a "big Australia". Any reduction in person greenhouse gas emissions will be negated by more consumers, and the technology for renewable energy must not only replace the big demands for energy, but outstrip population growth. There is no way we will meet our international commitments to reduce ghg emissions while we are going head forward with a growth-based economy. Herding instinct means we always ignore the size of our herd.

Welfare benefits are incredibly hard and restricted for Australian citizens to get. People without assets are at an advantage. However, for some people coming from third-world countries, it can mean a great difference. Recently there was a revelation that many refugees were sending funds home to their families overseas. For Africans, it was not unusual to send up to 20 per cent of their weekly incomes to families. The average amount was $200 a month and each refugee was supporting about five people back home. Taxpayers are actually supporting not only refugees but their families - such were the generous amounts being given them! Swinburne University migration expert Dr Katharine Betts said she was astonished by the scale of the payments leaving Australia. "It might be a concern that taxpayers' money was being channelled in this direction," she said. Some refugees sending welfare payments abroad

Bandicoot wrote:

Australia's ... generous Centrelink benefits, make us an ideal target for asylum seekers.

As a former recipient of CentreLink benefits I consider them far from generous. At least twice in my life I have lived on my savings, from a house I had been forced to sell after I had split up, rather than put myself through the red tape of applying for CentreLink benefits. Certainly they can be a incentive for people from other countries to migrate here, particularly if the red tape were to be taken care of, but to imply that the benefits are generous to either those seeking to immigrate here or to existing residents puts us in the same camp as welfare-basher Tony Abbott, who wants to further cut back unemployment entitlements upon winning government.

Of course what is referred to as 'growth' is nothing of the sort. If the size of the cake could somehow increase, that would be a good thing.

But it can't, unless an asteroid containing vast quantities of fossil fuel and metals were to strike the earth and not do too much damage. But, of course that won't happen.

The other way we could 'grow' for a while at least would be to expand human civilization into space with space colonisation and be able to exploit the resources of the moon, the asteroids and other planets, but until either were to ever happen, the size of the cake we have to share amongst us and the other life forms on this earth remains the same.

As population increases, there are more and more people to share it amongst, so the standard of living can only become worse. That the elites are not able to prosper except by making all of humanity poorer on average and the poorest vastly poorer shows just how worthless they have become.

Overnight, the story linked to above, was removed from the front page of infowars. In its place, instead was the story Syrian forces 'ordered to shoot to kill'. At this point in time, the earlier story has not been deleted but cannot be found if you don't already know its URL is http://www.infowars.com/syria-lybia-2-0-it-looks-more-likely-by-the-day/ . The original published version of the story, no longer on the front page of infowars.com , is here at http://endthelie.com/2011/07/07/syria-lybia-2-0-it-looks-more-likely-by-....

You'd think, given the problems of climate change, water, food production, energy etc, our policymakers would be looking at curbing population growth. The reality is the opposite - we are being driven into economic growth through population growth. As Albert Einstein said, "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." We can't mitigate climate change and at the same time continue to increase our population. They are part of the same problem! Any attempts to combat climate change are futile while we keep adding to the thing that causes it - us.

July 11 is World Population Day - New York Times Square action planned http://candobetter.net/comment/reply/2516#comment-form This article by Admin caught my eye! I've been complaining about the lack of elbow room with SIX Billion people on the planet! 7 Billion People On The Planet , - and its "Beam Me UP Scotty!"- time. ... 'Tens of millions of people will see the 15-second spot, which is airing once an hour on CBS's Super LED Screen, a 520-square-foot television on 42nd Street in the heart of Times Square Plaza. It's important to highlighting the issue now: The planet's population is expected to hit 7 billion this fall.'

... In the early eighties I had an argument with a builder who was all for population growth (because, amongst other things, it would make things cheaper if there were more people to circulate goods and money). I said that it wouldn't work.. it would just make things harder to get and reduce the value of people generally (human resources - a term not widely used back then - to my mind, this term inferred that people were de-humanised.. simply a commodity). Anyway - no one wanted to listen to me and this forum was not available then - but I haven't changed my mind; human fodder is what we are - for the wealthy - who have a (sociopathic?) knack for exploitation - is all that stands between a poor man and a rich one. Ok, maybe a bit simplictic - but I'm on the right track, I'm sure.

All of the issues on this site are very serious, and Can Do Better provides us with the opportunity in a great forum to discuss many of our mutual concerns. However, sometimes a bit of levity can do what a lot of 'brow beating' fails to do ~ I hope that my fellow comrades enjoy a bit of light relief from the above piece. Yours Respectfully Agent Provocateur

I wrote a book and published it a couple of years ago in 2009 about smoking and pollution. I've now given up smoking myself, and may cannibalise my own book for an update. The upshot was that people cause pollution - which in a round about way, I think Dick Smith is saying, in his book, Population Crisis - which Sheila Newman discusses here on Can Do Better. I think Dick will need to sell around 12,000,000 copies in Australia - assuming that every person of child bearing age is interested in keeping the population (and thereby, pollution) down. Not if one's hormones have anything to do with it! ... Eh??? It is neither the heart nor the head which rules.. it's hormones ! . Well, Dick (excuse the double entendre here ... I'm referring to Mr Smith) what've you got to say to that? Dick invites someone under 30 to come up with a solution to population explosion ( I think I saw this written amidst the blurb?). That's like telling a ball not to roll down the hill, isn't it? But Dick's right ~ button up your pants, cross your legs, folks and think of England! Perhaps there's a refugee boat heading somewhere with more available room now that... oh well.. you never know ~ perhaps we underestimate our young. Keeping themselves is hard enough - God knows, they're too self centred to want to keep anyone else... there's hope yet! Fingers crossed (and legs) that the Population Explosion is merely the figment of some old wowser's angst.

This is a report from an Israeli Newspaper, suggesting that MP Danny Danon, of Melbourne Ports, who has a portfolio that includes immigration, is going to propose that Israel off-load Muslim illegal immigrants who have found their way to Israel. The reason for his proposal is apparently mostly because he believes that Muslims in Israel would threaten the Jewish state. He seems to be acting like Australia is some kind of dumping ground. Why is he an MP here? From the Jerusalem Post Fri, Jul 8, 2011:
""Danny Danon: Send African migrants to Australia By LAHAV HARKOV 06/30/2011 16:35 http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=227332 Likud MK and Australian MP discuss "humane solution" for thousands of 'Muslim infiltrators' in Israel: Send them to live down under. MK Danny Danon (Likud) asked Australian MP Michael Danby on Wednesday to propose, in parliament in Canberra, sending African migrants from Israel to Australia. Danon and Danby discussed the issue during the Australian politician’s visit to Israel for the World Jewish Congress’s International Conference of Jewish Parliamentarians. [RELATED: African migrants, activists hold World Refugee Day rally Gov’t: Number of African migrants reaches high for 2011] “The arrival of thousands of Muslim infiltrators to Israeli territory is a clear threat to the state’s Jewish identity,” Danon told The Jerusalem Post. “The refugees’ place is not among us, and the initiative to transfer them to Australia is the right and just solution. “On the one hand, it treats the refugees and migrants in a humane way. On the other hand, it does not threaten Israel’s future and our goal to maintain a clear and solid Jewish majority,” he explained. Danon said Danby enthusiastically agreed to present the idea to the Australian Parliament. Danby was not available for comment, however, as he was in-flight on his way back to Australia. According to the Knesset’s Research and Information Center, there were 35,638 migrants in Israel as of May. Fewer than 1 percent are recognized by the UN as refugees. Some 61% of the migrants – 21,748 people – are Eritrean, however, and categorized as members of a “temporary humanitarian protection group” by the UN, because they cannot be returned safely to their home country due to internal strife." “Since Australia has a policy of accepting refugees and groups under protection, I would appreciate it if you could promote a solution in which Australia would accept those who seeking refuge,” Danon wrote in a letter to the MP from Melbourne following their meeting.

This article from the Cairns post makes me sick to my stomach...The human race is becoming more and more depraved as time goes by...What is wrong with the human race / parasite..The scourge of our earth needs to be cleaned up big time before every non human animal is wiped off its face...This is horrific and now a daily occurance...These parasites who did this to these beautiful animals should be euthanased.. EIGHT teenagers have been caught hunting and killing wild wallabies during cruel attacks with spears in bushland near homes at White Rock. Residents tipped off police after seeing large groups of distressed wallabies scattering through properties near Giffin Rd. They told police the animals were being speared, hog-tied and tortured by a gang of teenagers that had set up a hideout in the bushland and regularly hunted in the area. The youths, aged 13-15, have each been charged with animal cruelty after officers searched the area and found two spears. A White Rock resident, who asked not to be named, said the community had been aware of the attacks for months. But the frequency of animal cruelty complaints to police in the area has increased during the June school holidays. "We end up with enormous amounts of wallabies flying through where we’re living because they’ve been startled down where they’re grazing in the big open area," the resident said. "Since we’ve found out what’s happening down there, we vigilantly check what’s going on every couple of days – all the local residents have been going down there to check." RSPCA officers searched the area without finding any distressed animals, but people from neighbouring properties have found tortured wallaby carcasses. "Last week, we went for a decent walk through the area and there were quite a few carcasses," the resident said. Other residents in the area said the animals were being speared and hog-tied by the youths. Acting Sen-Sgt Tony Anderson said five of the teenagers were charged after a police search on Friday and the other charges were laid after further investigations this week

Hello Vivienne,

Your link to 'Read more on The pastoral industry in the Northern Territory is ecologically unsustainable' has been compromised.
If you have the original source please re-post; as we all know how our governments tend to hide inconvenient environmental facts.

Thanks.

Tigerquoll
Suggan Buggan
Snowy River Region
Victoria 3885
Australia

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