Comments
Tony, you have succinctly
Real facts about nuclear power
Subject was: Real Facts
Ed. The author of the following comment has supplied a very out-of-date resource. The simple explanation he or she refers us to was last updated on 14 March, with a comment that radiation levels were increasing but it was not known to what level. Here is the unhelpful comment I am criticising:
Stop scaremongering and read some real facts.
http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/13/fukushima-simple-explanation/
The out-of-date article, referred to above is: Fukushima Nuclear Accident – a simple and accurate explanation posted on 13 Mar 11. The opening paragraph of that article is:
Along with reliable sources such as the IAEA and WNN updates, there is an incredible amount of misinformation and hyperbole flying around the internet and media right now about the Fukushima nuclear reactor situation. In the BNC post Discussion Thread – Japanese nuclear reactors and the 11 March 2011 earthquake (and in the many comments that attend the top post), a lot of technical detail is provided, as well as regular updates. But what about a layman’s summary? How do most people get a grasp on what is happening, why, and what the consequences will be?
- Ed

Can you tell me which reactor, please?
words are not enough

Thanks for your comment, Brad.

Collapse of complex societies
Even that is not grim enough
Why haven't they sarcophagized the reactors?
Organic Farmers: Appeal to Decomission All Nuclear Reactors

Who cares for the forest?
Martin Bryant
Why no "No Fly zone" over Toronto?
Libya: Largest Military Undertaking since the Invasion of Iraq
Libya: Largest Military Undertaking since the Invasion of Iraq. Towards a Protracted Military Operation by Michael Chossudovsky of Global Research 20 Mar 2011 :
Outright lies by the international media: Bombs and missiles are presented as an instrument of peace and democratization...
This is not a humanitarian operation. The war on Libya opens up a new regional war theater.
There are three distinct war theaters in the Middle East Central Asian region. Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq.
What is unfolding is a fourth US-NATO War Theater in North Africa, with the risk of escalation.
These four war theaters are functionally related, they are part of an integrated US-NATO military agenda. ...
LIBYA-When historical memory is erased - In the square the banners of King Idris wave by Manlio Dinucci also of globalresearch.ca 28 Feb 11 :
Benghazi captured, the rebels have lowered the green flag of the Republic of Libya, hoisting in its place the red, black and green banner with crescent and star: the flag of the monarchy of King Idris. The same flag was hoisted by protesters (including those of the Partito democratico and the Rifondazione comunista) on the gate of the Libyan embassy in Rome, raising the cry: "Here's the flag of democratic Libya, that of King Idris." It was a symbolic act, rich in history and burning current events....
Great analogies and there is hope!
24 hour vigil at NMIT Eden Park to stop roo culling
Fight for sustainability cannot be won on only one front
Tim wrote:
Living 'smaller', increasing technological efficiency and achieving equality would make but a trivial and short-lived impact on overshoot. To suggest otherwise reflects a serious lack of perspective and scale.
Tim, none of the measures I proposed to eliminate much of the waste by humankind need rocket science to implement (and few of the others, which I have yet to mention, do). Most of them could be brought into effect by simple changes of law that most would understand and support in any democratic society. I fail to see how the impact of reducing so much waste imposed upon humankind by the "free market" system could be 'trivial'.
The fact remains that the world is supporting 7 billion humans now and, short of there being a global war, which would be unlikely not to involve the use nuclear weapons (from which we can thank JFK amongst others for having saved us in the past) or new genocidal dictators in the mould of Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot rising to power, the world can and must support 7 billion people or not much less than that number for at least a few decades to come. Now surely, Tim, you don't wan't to see global human population reduced by those means? Of course it would be faster than more natural means, but, I think the cost that would be borne by our global life support system would be less if human's population reduction were achieved naturally, even if not quite as quickly.
Obviously our global life support system can't support anywhere near 7 billion people in the long term, but until numbers are reduced to truly sustainable numbers, we have to find ways to reduce the harmful impact of all those people by as much as we possibly can.
Also, by showing up how the same selfish elites, who are now trying to increase our global popuation, also favour such scandalous waste in so many areas of human activity, we stand a far greater chance of removing, through political action, the harmful control they now exert over our destinies.
This will be made more likely when we show ordinary people how, in order to increase their own bottom lines, they willingly decrease, by an amount vastly greater than what they, themselves, gain, the bottom line in natural capital of this and future generations of humankind.
If we choose to fight for sustainability only on the front of population size, then it seems to me that our chances of winning the fight, even on that front alone, are not increased, but, in fact, reduced.
Not only in France
Food prices to rise 15-20% with oil costs
since last year CIC website
Reverse discrimination
Sustainability should not be fought for on only one front
Tim wrote:
That, [David Attenborough] said, was a cause for optimism---we can make that kind of effort again to shift to a sustainable economy, an industrial economy that operates within limits. But where will this economy find enough non-renewable resources to maintain it? Can we run any kind of industrial economy indefinitely?
Whilst there can be no kind of industrial economy that can last indefinitely, I think given the earth's considerable remaining stock of non-renewable natural resources, if we dramatically change the way society is run, then I think there is hope that we may be able to sustain the kind of industrial production which produces truly useful artifacts, such as computers, telecommunications, sewing machines, railway systems, solar energy panels, spades, rakes, wheelbarrows and bicycles, for a little longer.
Whilst we can't hope for a sustainable future without population stability, we could still progress a long way towards the goal of sustainability by reducing humankind's wasteful consumption of non-renewable natural resources.
We must at least remove economic incentives which increase profitability for product manufacturers and retailers, but at the expense of reducing by more than is necessary the natural capital owned, or which should be owned, by human society as a whole as well as future generations. Better still, such practices should be criminalised, if at all possible. Practices, which which we should aim to minimise, include:
- Built-in obsolescence
- Manufacturing tools, items of machinery and other items with similar parts that are non-standard.
At the very least, it should be illegal to manufacture and sell anything, which can't make use of screws, washers, nuts and batteries and electricity outlets with standard sizes and specifications. If this had been done decades ago, the amount of fill in rubbish tips today would be vastly less and our remaining stocks of metals, fossil fuels and other natural capital would be much greater. Items that typically become useless after two or three years, either because they are designed to break down or because it is not possible to replace a missing part, could instead easily have useful lives of at least many decades before they are consigned to the tip. Given that humankind still has considerable remaining stocks of natural capital, it would not be too late even now to adopt such measures to seriously reduce their waste.
We could also vastly reduce the need for so many people to travel as far as they do and as often as they do by better town planning. Why can't governments insist that work locations, shops, schools, entertainment venues and other amenities be put near where people live?
Where people still have to travel a lot, there are many ways in which it is possible to reduce the cost of transport. If a taxi could be driven without a license plate, the prices of which have been driven up to the order of over AU$300,000 by speculative trading (see WA TAXI CAB (Perth) Premium Taxi Plate $315,000 on 24 Mar 11), fares would be low enough to make taxis a more affordable means of transport to many who now own cars as well as allow taxi drivers to earn a decent living in a civilised working week and not have to work in the slave-like conditions that most Australian taxi drivers now work under.
It is excessively hard for people to obtain motorcycle licenses. If motorcycle licenses could be obtained more easily, particularly by people prepared to ride low-powered motorcycles or no-peds, then the number of cars on our roads and the natural capital consumed in their manufactured and use could be dramatically reduced.
Even if we are unable to achieve the goal of population stability and reduction quite as soon as we would wish, adopting measures such as I described above can surely still increase the likelihood of human civilisation becoming sustainable before it strikes catastrophe.
Of course, I am not saying for a minute that we not take every opportunity to argue for population stability, but the fight for sustainability has to be fought on every possible front. If we make less advance than we would wish on one front then at least an advance on another front can only buy us more time.
The article, Questions That Continue To Bedevil Me of 24 Mar 11 by Tim, may be in response to this comment. In the teaser, he has written, "The fight for sustainability cannot be a war fought on all fronts, but a single-minded determination to remove the first stumbling block to solving all other problems."
Empathy for the animals
Bernard Salt and Boroondara
Women are a powerful grass-roots force

Strong social order
Immigration in Japan
Crime in Japan
How irresponsible - reply from Sheila N
Disaster in Japan and disaster management activities
CfM re pop growth - response from Sheila N
Mary Drost and Commitee for Melbourne
Humans don't understand the dynamics of growth
Limits to growth can't be ignored for economic gain
Committee for Melbourne on Population growth
Subject was: Population growth
The Committee for Melbourne is not planning for increasing growth. We are planning for slowing growth not expanding growth. Here are the facts:
• The recent spike of population growth is 2.2%
• The State government and opposition both support 1.7%
• The 50 year average is 1.65%
• The Federal politicians are talking 1.5%.
CfM is not promoting growth. But we do guess where our population will be and plan our infrastructure for that population so that we remain economically, socially and environmentally sustainable.
We believe that the greatest threat is unplanned future sprawl and congestion. To plan for the future and avoid sprawl and congestion you need a best guess at where population will be.... it may not be where you WANT it to be, but you need to guess where it will PROBABLY be.
We estimate a 1.4% growth – slower than all of the above rates - ie CfM is estimating SLOWER growth.
Yet we get abuse.
Ask yourself is it good for democracy to abuse those who do not hold EXACTLY the same opinion as you do?
We get labelled as ‘big growth big business’ even when a lot of our members are not for profit community groups, educational institutions and the like.
We actually are starting to find that your site likes to hear only from people who agree entirely with everyone else, as disagreement is abused and howled down. (Please see my comment here. - Ed.)
Many on your site have labelled me a ‘big business fat cat’. Why make personal attacks when one look at my profile shows that this is far from the truth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_MacLeod. Since when is an aid worker a fat cat?
I am interested in debate, if people are interested in hearing a diversity of views. I am happy to meet anywhere anytime if people are interested in genuine dialogue.
how irresponsible
Mary - that is unfair
Disaster in Japan
The comment I made was about the financial state not to push an ideological agenda.
Having spent most of my life in post disaster recovery and reconstruction I find the insinuation distasteful. If you doubt that at least check out my profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_MacLeod
When a country has gone from being the world's largest creditor to the world's largest debtor in only 20 years, it can no longer afford to re-build. That was the point I made.
On a bigger issue: many people in Australia lament the lack of quality debate in our politics.
If you are disappointed ask yourself this: Does howling down and abusing people just because they disagree with you an encourager of debate?
Andrew
Editorial comment: I am not aware of any post that could fairly be labelled 'abusive'. If Andrew were to cite an example here or by e-mail, I can take it up with the person whom Andrew MacLeod feels abused by.
One apparent error in Andrew MacLeod's contribution is his claim that people who disagree with Sheila Newman's views, who would like to contribute to this discussion, are being "howl[ed] down". The fact that he has submitted this and quite a few more contributions today and that all have been published in full, on top of all that he has contributed before today surely means that Andrew MacLeod, at least, has not been "howl[ed] down." If Andrew MacLeod knows of anyone else who has felt too "howl[ed] down by the tone of this discussion to contribute, then he is welcome to let me know about it. He could even post whatever contributions he knows of, which our "howling down" has prevented others from contributing themselves, should they wish him to.
Invasion of Libya is a big Distraction
the un security council has been quick to agree to the invasion of libya to “protect its citizens”. now it condemns what it calls illegal abuses in bahrain where sunni muslim rulers have launched a brutal crackdown against shiite protesters.
iran has now complained to the united nations and asked neighbours to join it in urging saudi arabia to withdraw forces from bahrain.
Do you think the un will do anything at all about this request to protect bahrain's pro-democracy shiite people against the invasion by saudis and the assaults from its own government?
NO. because the invasion of libya is to provide a distraction from what is happening in bahrain.
the usa (and the un) will continue protect their compliant rulers in saudi arabia and bahrain. there is still too much oil coming from the saudis, and arms sales to them are extremely profitable for the usa - e.g. biggest-ever sale of american arms took place several months ago to the saudis. bahrain also hosts the headquarters of the us 5th fleet.
pro-american saudi arabia and bahrain also provide a buffer to iran, which lies just across the vital straits of hormuz. 20% of world oil supplies pass through this chokepoint.
i agree with others and suspect that this is why the usa is controlling the assault on libya (while pretending not to), and the crackdown on bahrain's revolution, as reported in the wall street journal.
if you want to find out more, here are some websites:-
http://www.examiner.com/geopolitics-in-national/u-s-led-coalition-tomahawks-libya-photos-videos
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/03/20-0
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/21/3168866.htm?section=justin
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/21/3168866.htm?section=justin
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/03/2011316131230188238.html (about saudi pilots being trained in the usa)
Editor's comment: Thank you for your comments on the response by the US to the claimed repression of a supposedly popular uprising in one country (Libya) which is glaringly inconsistent with its response to the bloody repression of another popular uprising against the corrupt autocratic rulers of Bahrain. Unfortunately, we at candobetter have not been unable to give as much covrage as we would like to unfolding world events, the consequences of which very likely will affect us profoundly even in countries as geographically remote from the turmoil as Australia. (One suggestion, though: could you use UPPER Case Letters a bit more in future comments? I tried to fix the lack of uppercase letters in your text, but lost the corrected text and didn't have time to try again.)

Disaster management and the population of Japan
Committee for Melbourne CEO wants to debate and discuss
Subject was: a little inaccurate.
I thought you skewed my interview in a populist way. Happy, in the name of dialogue and discussion, to debate or talk with you about this any where anytime if you want to step from behind the safety of a screen into the real world.
See also: comment of 22 Feb 2011, Committee of Melbourne on call for Pratt & Murdoch to downsize, also by Andrew MacLeod. - Editor
Australia needs to stop being complacent about food security
Japanese Bhuddist monk's comments on disaster
"I opened the door and looked outside. I knew immediately there was something wrong. The temple here has many candles. I took them to my neighbours to save them from spending the night in darkness. That was all I could do.
The problem is that we rely totally on electricity. Nothing can be done without it. Everything stops without it. That is why he had to have nuclear power.
There is a need to think differently.
Anyone can recognise misery and bad luck, but happiness is something that one only recognises when one has lost it."
Japanese Bhuddist monk interviewed on 1300h French News 18 March 2010.
Duck shooting protester shot in the face
Scavengers are useful
Clive Hamilton, Mandatory Internet Filtering & Silencing Dissent
But aren't scavengers useful in the web of life?
Scavengers
Good news from Tony Burke - Ag minister
Politicians can't manage human priorities - only the economy
Nuclear threat to fertility
Comprehensive demographic transition model
Baillieu government allows the shooting of native waterbirds
Economic growth - the big consumer
Plague of humans and the coming decline
We are being eviscerated
New, more comprehensive, scientific Demographic Transition Model
Subject was (due to subject length on this Drupal installation): New, more comprehensive, science-driven Demographic Transition M
Dear Colleagues:
As humanity's most luminous beacon of truth, science provides us with a last best hope for the survival of life as we know it on Earth. We must make certain that scientific evidence is never downplayed, distorted and denied by religious dogma, politics or ideological idiocy.
Let us not fail for another year to acknowledge extant research of human population dynamics. The willful refusal of many, too many experts to assume their responsibilities to science and perform their duties to humanity could be one of the most colossal mistakes in human history. Such woefully inadequate behavior, as is evident in an incredible conspiracy of silence among experts, will soon enough be replaced with truthful expressions by those in possession of clear vision, adequate foresight, intellectual honesty and moral courage.
Hopefully leading thinkers and researchers will not continue suppressing scientific evidence of human population dynamics and instead heed the words of Nobel Laureate Sir John Sulston regarding the emerging and converging, human-driven global challenges that loom ominously before humankind in our time, “we’ve got to make sure that population is recognized.... as a multiplier of many others. We’ve got to make sure that population really does peak out when we hope it will.”
Sir John goes on, “what we want to do is to see the issue of population in the open, dispassionately discussed.... and then we’ll see where it goes.”
In what is admittedly a feeble effort to help John Sulston fulfill his charge to examine all available scientific evidence regarding human population dynamics, please give careful consideration to the following presentation and then take time to rigorously scrutinize the not yet overthrown science from Russell Hopfenberg and David Pimentel regarding human population dynamics and human overpopulation.
http://www.panearth.org/GPSO.htm
Please accept this invitation to discern the best available science of human population dynamics and human overpopulation; discover the facts; deliberate; draw logical conclusions; and disseminate the knowledge widely.
Thank you,
Steve Salmony
Tony Burke fails to renew emergency heritage listing to Tarkine
Public meeting: Cattle don't belong in national parks
nuisance dogs and their owners
Editorial comment: The following was originally posted as a comment to the article What recourse do victims of nuisance dog barking have? of 18 Jul 11. As a bug in the earlier version of Drupal, from which this site is built, prevents links to pages, other than the first comment page from working, I have reposted the comment here.
These dogs are everywhere in Manitou spgs, Co., (Not sure whether this is a place or what? - Ed) where k 9s are respected more than people. Since Manitou doesn't subscribe to the aspca, it's a real battle to impress upon code enforcement that noise is an issue. As a retired individual and a combat vet. I truly appreciate my silence. But when the code officer doesn't live in town and is a dog owner, well you're really pushin' chain. Basically in my humble opinion it's a real matter of consideration by the dog owner, if they don't give a crap about your life, etc, then why shouldn't I use every legal effort to make that owners life as miserable as they make mine. I know that sounded petty but I'm open to alternatives. One of these owners happens to be deaf, doesn't know noise from silence. But the village puts up with such, and since I seem to be the only one complaining ( my auditory abilities are better than normal ) I'm the odd ball. This doesn't preclude a valid complaint, but when you're one against the whole village of dog owners, you may as well have leprosy. I can only hope that some these inconsiderate owners, someday get the annoyance of their lives by some screaming red headed triplets. I like animals, I have raised children, dogs, and can shoe a horse, all the time in doing so there was never a complaint by others to me to manage my animals. Inconsiderate, this is the bottom line for those with animals that cause this nuisance.
Hotels and restaurants in national parks
Is TXU Aust a new name for TRU ENERGY
Victoria's national parks to be commercialised
Greens Party stops environmentalists becoming effective
This article rightly shows that because of their effective support for high immigration, the Greens can't be considered a serious political party in favor of the environment.
However, I think the most critical factor about how the existence of the Greens adversely affects democracy and serves Australia's ruling elites has been overlooked.
In the 19 years since the Greens were formed in 1992, they have succeeded in drawing out of many thousands of well-meaning environmentalists money and energy that could have been put to far better use.
Given that the two major political parties, Labor on the one hand and the Liberal/National coalition on the other, have poor to abysmal records in government and that this has been shown conclusively again and again, it is inconceivable that after 19 years, the decent alternative that the Greens claim to be could not have at least steadily and consistently increased its electoral support. By now such a party should be in government either in their own right or in coalition, in many parts of Australia. At the very least, such a party should have a substantial presence in all Parliaments.
With a few rare exceptions, like the 2010 Federal elections and the 2010 Tasmanian state elections the electoral performance of the Greens has been, at best, mediocre and usually poor.
If the 'anti-war' Greens could not have performed well in 2004, then when could they ever have?
The outcome of the 2004 elections were particularly harmful to Australia, not to mention the rest of the world, and could have been avoided. In 2003 the Howard Government participated in the illegal invasion of Iraq, using a pretext shown to have been a deliberate lie.[1] At the 2004 elections, Howard did not even have to pay the slightest electoral price for his actions and was re-elected with effectively an outright majority in the Senate. The campaign by the Greens, supposedly leaders of the anti-war movement, in those elections did not stop the Liberal/National majority from gainining an outright Senate majority, where the proportional quota voting system should have made that easily achievable.
At the recently concluded 2010 Victorian state elections, the Greens won no lower house seats and were again unable even to stop the Liberal/National party from winning an outright majority in the upper house.
The outright majority that the Liberal/Nationals have gained has taken away from Victorians any recourse in Parliament against the Liberal/National Coalition Government until the next state elections in 2014, should it choose to govern in a way which is as harmful to ordinary Victorians as they have in the past.
I don't believe that the Greens would perform as poorly as they nearly always do unless it actually suited the purposes of those in control of the Greens not to wield any effective influence in Parliament.
If they were to hold the balance of power or even were to form Government, then their supporters would rightly expect them to do something for their benefit.
This would mean that the Greens would either have to act against the powerful vested interests they claim to be against or be shown up as the frauds that I believe most of them to be.
As they have never gained enough representation in any Parliament, they have been able to avoid being put to the test. (Of course, they now have the balance of power in Tasmania with 5 of the 25 the seats. This will be worth following closely. Hopefully, just possibly, the Tasmanian Greens may show themselves to be an exception to this sad pattern.)
Footnotes
1. As shown in the recent movie Fair Game or in the YouTube broadcast of testimony by CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson before the US Senate (also embedded in this comment), upon which Fair Game was based, the pretext given by The U.S. government and the Australian government for the invasion of Iraq was a lie. That lie was that Iraq had a secret nuclear weapons program, which it intended to use on other countries. In Australia, the largest demonstrations since the Vietnam, War were held against the threatened invasion. In defiance of public opinion, Howard proceeded with Australia's participation in the invasion of Iraq. As the Greens were part of the leadership of the anti-war movement, they should at least have gained massively, but didn't. If they could not gain in those circumstances, then how could they ever expect to?
See also Valerie Plame Wilson interviewed by Jon Stewart on The Daily Show on 30 October 2007, Wikipedia and Sixty Minutes.
Privatization a disaster for carbon tax
Our AFP are now agents for Tokyo police
Will NATO use civil war as excuse for invasion?
Macabre experiments on kangaroos
Cattle in the high country - vote
For those who want to send a message to the Coalition (who take notice of the readers of the Weekly Times) on whether cattle should be kicked out of the Alpine National park – please
go here and vote YES.
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au
So far it’s 60% of voters who want the cattle kept up there. Editorial comment: As of 1:20PM on Saturday 5 March, the vote is 51% in favour of removing cattle from the National Park and only 49% in favour of keeping them in the park.
Milk is good for you
Simple solution
Bandicoot nails it
A few essential "details" not mentioned in the assessment
Religious labels
Singapore migration agency's 'comment'
Subject was: Truly it is a good example.
Truly it is a good example of how circumstances can force people to move from their place and position. I wonder if we can ever be secure that we will not be affected by our economic situation. Looking at it in another way, this event may present a new life, a new beginning and new opportunities in themselves.
Editorial Comment: This 'comment' demonstrates no comprehension, whatsoever, of the content of this article, which is highly critical of the global mass immigration rort of which, no doubt, nTRUST (Singapore) PTE (sic) LTD is a part. It's web-site, http://ntrust.com.sg is here, but be warned, particularly if your computer runs on the Micro$oft operating system, which is more vulnerable to viruses than are other operating systems, that the Web of Trust (www.mywot.com) warns, "This site has a poor reputation". It has poor trustworthiness, very poor vendor reliability and very poor privacy.
Older people are not a threat
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Animals matter little in Queensland - or anywhere
Dingbats
Starving dingoes "culled" and dying in Fraser Island
Immigration Department - skills migration justification
Limits of science
Raspail's Vision Will Unfold Before Our Eyes
Raispal's vision is unfolding before our eyes. All of us, in every affluent country with a social safety net, will be overwhelmed, but not so much by the sheer volume of incoming migrants, but by the 5th columnists at our backs who shape public opinion and cultivate an attitude of defeatism and guilt. I am speaking of the Puppet Intelligentsia and the nest of cultural relativists in universities, political parties and the media who will press us to open the floodgates in the name of compassion and moral responsibility. Unless we deal with them
our lifeboat will be swamped. The Greens, the environmental establishment, the trade union bureaucrats who line their guts with members' dues, and the mainstream political parties must be identified for what they are. The enemies of nature, of sustainability and of the indigenous poor, middle and working classes. There can be no fellowship with them.
They aim to take us down. We haven't much time.
Tim
Editorial comment: I can see that we have much to lose, if we allow fruitless compassion that cannot, to any worthwhile degree, hope to improve the lot of all the hundreds of millions of those most at threat from the coming ecological crisis, but I also think we stand to lose a lot if we allow ourselves to give in to those are seemingly on the opposite end of the political spectrum to the Puppet Intelligentsia, about whom Tim rightly complains, that is those who are waging immoral wars against the Middle East and Central Asia. It is striking that so few of the bleeding heart Puppet Intelligentia have spoken the truth about the lies that have been used as pretexts for those wars, that is the lie of Iraqi WMDs as exposed so eloquently and vividly in the movie Fair Game of late 2010, and the even bigger lie of 9/11
The Puppet Intelligentsia want us to adopt measures that can only harm the poorest members of our own community in a futile attempt to improve the lot of those most threatened by the coming global ecological crisis.
It's striking how the most dedicated and effective fighters against war and international injustice are also the most outspoken against high immigration and for the rights of the poorest of their own country. One of history's most renowned opponents of war, population growth (as you, yourself have noted, Tim) and high immigration is, of course, the late Reverend Dr Martin Luther King. His views on the cause of opposing immigration, which is even less “politically correct” then supporting birth control, can be seen from the following:
Unfortunately, studies have overemphasized the problem of the Negro male ego and almost entirely ignored the most serious element -- Negro migration. During the past half century Negroes have migrated on a massive scale, transplanting millions from rural communities to crammed urban ghettoes. In their migration, as with all migrants, they carried with them the folkways of the countryside into an inhospitable city slum. The size of family that may have been appropriate and tolerable on a manually cultivated farm was carried over to the jammed streets of the ghetto. In all respects Negroes were atomized, neglected and discriminated against.
If King were alive today, I don’t believe he would be any less contemptuous of the Puppet Intelligentsia, than you are, Tim
Funeral Rights/Rites of Australian Prisoners vs Refugees'
In the debate about refugee funerals, no one has yet discussed the morality of a government granting rights and privileges to undocumented aliens far in excess of what is granted to citizens.
In October 2001, I was being held in Silverwater Prison Sydney, on remand, on federal (ACCC) charges. When my mother died in Perth, I was refused permission to leave NSW to attend her funeral. I believe all states and territories have similar rules in not allowing prisoners to attend interstate funerals.
Had the funeral been in NSW, I would have been obliged to pay my own transport costs. As well I would have had to pay the transport and accommodation costs ot two guards. I saw how this substantial cost prevented aboriginal prisoners attending funerals in Bourke or Brokern Hill from Sydney.
Now a precedent has been set, I would support the commonwealth funding funeral visit costs for all Australian prisoners. Especially across state borders, under section 92 of our constitution.
David Hughes
* The ACCC case can be found on their website, putting "HUGHES" in their search box.
CIA Agent shooting Pakistanis deserves Pakistani Justice
CIA Agent Ray Davis shooting Pakistanis deserves Pakistani Justice
[Ed. This comment was originally placed as an article, but we have published it as a comment due to its length.]
When will the United States and Israel learn that sending their respective military cloak and dagger agents to criminal missions in foreign countries is not part of liberty and justice.
May US CIA agent Ray Davis receive proper Pakistani justice, according to Pakistani law.
If he is found guilty and summarily executed, so be it a lesson for US spying.
How else is the Pentagon to change its terrorism behaviour?
John Marlowe
Thanks for the analysis of spiked
Could spiked-online be a prop for vested interests?
It's hard to be sure what to make of this web-site.
The vested interests served by most mainstream media and how that is served by the way they choose to misreport news and mis-analyse current events are easy to work out, but whose interests are served by spiked-online and how are they served by spiked-online's bizarre and contradictory reporting of world events, if as you say Scott, "they make every attempt to alienate the reader of almost every persuasion"? Surely, there has to be a group of persistent spiked-online readers, who would form a category that would not be alienated by the articles. If not, then spiked-online would surely not have any influence that would concern us.
My guess is that its intended readership is of people who are opposed to forms of injustice and who would be potentially likely to do what they could to oppose the selfish vested interests in control of our societies.
Spiked-online’s likely purpose is to appear to offer such readers a hard-hitting and clear-headed, although unconventional and seemingly novel, understanding of what is wrong and what can be done about it, whilst, in fact, feeding them ideas which do anything but clarify their thinking and motivate them to take effective action.
So it doesn’t matter that much if the message of some of spiked-online's articles can't be shown to serve powerful vested interests as most in the mainstream media can be.
An example of what appears to be a stance by spiked-online against injustice is its support for the uprisings sweeping the middle east against the clearly corrupt and despotic rulers such as in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia for example in “Overdue end to the old world order”.
Of course there is little in that article that any democratic-minded progressive person could disagree with. Much of the regions problems can rightly be blamed on past meddling by the US and other imperialist powers in the region. However, spiked-online’s idiotic anti-Malthusianism prevents it from addressing the underlying problems of resource depletion and overpopulation faced by these regions and proposing solutions that can end the social turmoil.
In my own experience many supposed grass-roots political organisations, led by the most seemingly radical, revolutionary and Marxist types have, in fact, acted as props for the unjust systems they claim to oppose, by causing people of good will to waste their energies unproductively.
An example which comes to my mind is the Australian campaign against the threatened invasion of Iraq in 2003. Although it held demonstrations larger than any since the demonstrations of the Vietnam Moratorium movement, it completely failed to prevent that war or even to cause the Howard Government to pay any price at the subsequent 2004 elections for its deceit of the Australian public in order to and facilitate an illegal invasion of Iraq and war crimes.
That we were lied to by the Australian and US governments has been proven beyond doubt by, for example the movie Fair Game of 2010 and many times before that.
The fate of most other grass roots protest movements against war or for the environment or social justice Australia have been little different recent decades almost certainly because they have been misled by the same sorts of groups which misled the movement in protest against the war against Iraq in 2003. Spiked-online is no doubt run by similar types.
What I am reading: "War Without Frontiers" by Bernd Greiner
This book has been translated from the German in 2009 by Anne Wyburd. It was first published in Germany in 2007 as Kriege ohne fronten: Die USA in Vietnam. The promotion on the back page which caught my interest in the local Robinson's bookshop is:
To this day, the My Lai massacre has remained the most shocking episode of the Vietnam War. Yet this infamous incident was not an exception or an aberration. Based on extensive research and unprecedented access to US Army archives, and tracing the responsibility for these atrocities all the way up to the white House and the Pentagon, War Without Fronts reveals the true extent of war crimes committed by American troops in Vietnam and ho a war to win hearts and minds soon became a war against civilians.
No attention was even given to the My Lai massacre until a year and a half afterwards, according to the introduction (p 4). It continues:
In principle the accredited journalists in South Vietnam could easily have done so. Soldiers from various units circulated the story for months; Radio Hanoi repeatedly broadcast corroboratory reports; some reporters admitted later to having known about it. However, the majority of reporters had, according to Peter Braestrup of the Washington Post. 'subscribed to herd journalism'.
An honourable exception to this was Seymour Hersh, whose story of the My Lai massacre was printed in 36 newspapers on 13 May 1969. However, Hersh's more recent work stands in stark contrast to his service to journalistic truth in 1969. His book The Dark Side of Camelot of 1997 which seeks to falsely blame President Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy for escalating the Vietnam War, when they both tried to end it. For trying to end the war, and in JFK's case, stopping nuclear war on three occasions, they were both murdered by the US military industrial complex against which former President Eisenhower warned. To what other figure in all history can humankind be so indebted as to the Kennedy brothers? So, what kind of journalist would attempt to diminish their standing as Hersh has done?
Hersh's treatment of the Kennedy Brother's are answered in, amongst other works, Oliver Stone's magnificent movie JFK, James Douglass's "JFK and the Unspeakable - Why he died and why it matters" of 2008 and David Talbot's "Brothers".
I am also currently reading "Brothers" by David Talbot, (but my reading has been interrupted by a friend's reading at my urging.) This book firmly commends the legacy of the Kennedy Brothers. However it also fully discloses all significant facts of the Kennedy's records in public life, including many which don't seem, at face value, to be to their credit. The views of the Kennedy's harshest critics are also presented in "Brothers". So it is possible to find the Kennedys dislikable and unprincipled on some pages of the book. In fact, books as harshly critical of the Kennedys as The Dark Side of Camelot could have been easily written by just using selected material from Brothers. However, all critics of the Kennedys are answered and all apparently unprincipled actions of the brothers are explained in the context of the American political system which was loaded against people of good intentions ever being able to win and hold onto high office in the US. Because Talbot has looked at the record of the Kennedy brothers from every possible side, I find this book takes an unusual amount of effort to read, but it is also immensely rewarding and well worth the trouble.
Brothers firmly and unambiguously endorses the Kennedys as two of the bravest and most well-meaning people to have ever entered US public life and is damning of those in the establishment newsmedia and those supposed 'left-wing' and 'bleeding heart' intellectuals who have helped conceal the truth about the Kennedys and their murders. In spite of his heroism back in 1969, Seymour Hersh is amongst those intellectuals, and is specifically dealt with by Talbot.
War Without Frontiers - The USA in Vietnam costs AU$27.95 and should be available in many Australian bookshops. Brothers and JFK and the Unspeakable are still easy to order on-line, but may not be in stock on the shelves of most Australian bookshops.
See also: Why won't the "left" thank JFK for preventing nuclear war?.
Turmoil in Arab North Africa
Deconstructing the dangerous dogma of denial
Here is a letter recently sent to the UK's 'Times' by an acknowledged expert in Middle Eastern affairs :
While Western powers must, and by all appearances do, welcome the prospect of better governance in Egypt, they would be wise to plan their policies towards that country and the rest of the Islamic world on the likelihood of continued turmoil there.
I have watched with anxiety over several decades how populations have constantly outstripped the effects of economic growth in those states that do not benefit from relatively vast hydrocarbon resources,and this will not change soon.
Egypt's population was estimated at 22 million in 1950.Today, it is about 85 million, with perhaps 10 million more settled abroad. No mode of government could have fulfilled the aspirations of so many young people.
According to the best surveys we have, a third of Egyptians are under 15 years of age, while 60% are under 30. Their total number is expected to reach 120 million by the middle of this century. Furthermore, expectations are unrealistically high-and democracy does not thrive alongside rage.
There are so many parallels between Egypt's revolution and that of Iran in 1979.If you take into account the already dire scarcity of fresh water and arable land in Egypt, the future seems even more bleak. (Emphasis added - Editor)
Hazhir Temourian, London.
Finally, it could be said, perhaps, that reproduction is a form of consumption since all humans consume the earth's resources. Therefore, to promote absolute freedom in the matter of reproductive choice is irresponsible, since the infrastructure-both natural and constructed-is breaking under the strain of ever-increasing numbers.
I think that feminists should visit the website of the Centre for Biological Diversity (http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/).
Feminist denial
Evidence that unrest is due to food and water shortages
Poverty, repression, decades of injustice and mass unemployment have all been cited as causes of the political convulsions in the Middle East and north Africa these last weeks. Rivers are few, water demand is increasing as populations grow, underground reserves are shrinking and nearly all depend on imported staple foods that are now trading at record prices. In just 25 years, Egypt’s population has risen by nearly two-thirds, from 50 million in 1985 to around 83 million today, with an average age of 24. Many governments are suffering from demographic stress, unable to cope with the steady shrinkage in cropland and fresh water supply per person or to build schools fast enough for the swelling ranks of children.
Most ecologists and many geographers argue that there are already too many people on Earth and that it is the steady growth in human numbers that threatens to bring our food/population treadmill experience to a bad ending. We will ultimately have a sustainable population, but until then there will be inevitable suffering.
Martin Hutchinson, one of the few financial writers who understands something about population issues, wrote recently, in a piece called “The Blight of Population Growth,” (Feb. 7, 2011):
Both the rioters in Cairo’s Tahrir Square and the Western commentators on those riots have missed a vitally important component of Egypt’s miseries: its excessive and rapidly rising population.
The monster of population growth and unsustainable numbers of people are often ignored.
The Arab world accounts for 6.3 percent of the world’s population but only 1.4 percent of its renewable fresh water. From 1965 to 1997, population growth drove demand for agricultural development, leading to a doubling of land under irrigation. Demographic expansion in these countries is set to dramatically worsen their predicament.
Hunger and thirst are powerful drivers -- not only of migration, but of revolutions as well. Climate change leads directly to water and food shortages in already unstable regions, and can lead to violence and unrest. The International Organization for Migration reported today that it has already driven an estimated 24 million people from their homes--a number, they warned, that could rise to as high a billion people by 2050.
Water-starved Middle Eastern and other countries snap up leases on African land to improve their own food security and thus threatened the survival of already struggling communities.
Vultures
Christchurch
Growth is not linked to wealth
The conventional economic wisdom is that: "Simply put, if we want to live in a First World society, with all its benefits, we need more taxpayers to fund it."
Economists accept that the stability of developed countries depends on continual economic growth and consumption. However this is clearly not possible on a planet with finite resources. Many contemporary governments believe employment and wealth are created by continuous economic growth and consumption and that these are fundamental to electoral success. Political lifetimes are short, and so is political accountability. Short-term benefits are the key to short-term "successful" policies.
The fundamental problem with this ethos of continual growth and consumption is that it ignores the biological principle that all living systems will grow until limited by the constraints of food and resources. No natural species or natural communities can continually grow! Humans aren't an exception.
In a study: Relationship between Growth and Prosperity in 100 Largest U.S. Metropolitan Areas by Eben Fodor December 2010, the annual population growth rate of each metro area from 2000 to 2009 is used to compare economic well-being in terms of per capita income, unemployment rate, and poverty rate. The study found that faster growth rates are associated with lower incomes, greater income declines, and higher poverty rates.
The 25 slowest-growing metro areas outperformed the 25 fastest growing in every category and averaged $8,455 more in per capita personal income in 2009. The findings raise questions about the efficacy of conventional urban planning and economic development strategies that pursue growth of metro areas to advance the economic welfare of the general public.
Scandinavian countries have small, stable populations. They don't use their mineral wealth for day-to-day expenses: Norway saved its oil bounty, of which roughly half the profits went to the government and was put into their equivalent of a 'future fund'. They are wealthy countries that defy the expansionist mantra we hear so much in Australia.
A stable population would allow a more measured and sustainable use of resources and processes, and thus our future can be planned and so can sustainability.
On the contrary to Make Poverty History, we need to Make Wealth History. Under our current system, there are disastrous job losses whenever the economy goes into recession. It’s an inherently unstable system that is guaranteed to deliver a jobs cull every ten to twelve years, until it eventually runs out of steam altogether. The transition may be rocky, but a steady state should be much more stable in the longer term.
Problems and coercion due to growth
"Are we not constrained, or coerced, by many things in life that lie outside the dictates of government? Are we not constrained or coerced by resource shortages, traffic congestion, poor air quality, expensive housing and all the environmental baggage of overpopulation? Has not the sum total of private procreative decisions presently deemed to be the province of sacred and inalienable ‘human’ rights proven to be more coercive than the most draconian of any government’s birth control laws?"
We must restrain reproductive instincts for sake of all species
I would suggest that we might use 'constraint in the service of restraint' ; in other words, that we become mature enough- (what a hope!)-to accept constraints on our reproductive instincts in order to restrain our growing impact upon the earth and its dwindling resources.(My Collins Thesaurus has some good synonyms .)
As to the feminists : I would say that we should advance beyond the notion of reproductive rights and consider the notion of environmental duties and responsibilities and consider the 'rights' of our fellow creatures-who are losing the race.
Finally, as Asimov foresaw, overcrowding will do for any comfortable and complacent notions of individual liberty : (this is why I find SpikedOnline so irresponsible ; Brendan O'Neill constantly calls for unchecked population growth in the name of libertarianism and freedom of choice).
Wendy
Editorial comment: Thanks, Wendy. It's troubling that any supposedly intelligent person would argue against population control, the only rational choice on offer to humankind at the start of the 21st century. It's good to know who, out there, espouses such insanity. Anyone wishing to see why SpikedOnline causes Wendy so much concern, should look at this blog entry, Down with these Malthusian MPs of 6 Jan 2009 by Tim Black and not Brendan O'Neill. It's teaser is:
A proposal to cap the UK population at 70million shows how mainstream miserabilist population control has become
An article by Brendan O'Neill of 9 Jul 2009 is: Who’s afraid of billions of people? It's teaser is:
In the run-up to the UN’s World Population Day, spiked argues against all attempts to cajole, coerce or convince people into having fewer kids.
A more up-to-date article by Brendan O'Neill of 14 Jun 2010 is: The rise and rise of the Champagne Malthusians It's teaser, apparently intended to be tongue-in-cheek, is:
spiked’s editor joined the population-control lobby in a posh church in London as they quaffed ‘luxury’ drinks and fretted about overbreeding.
New push for multiculturalism
Addiction to growth a vicious cycle
Infrastructure shortages are hampering the growth of New South Wales, claimed Opposition Leader Barry O’Farrell at the Property Council of Australia's (NSW) Great Growth Debate, held last year in Sydney.
O'Farrell said “..it’s easy to use population growth and migration as the cause for Sydney’s infrastructure woes. I would go so far as to say it’s dangerous, when it’s the State Government that has failed to deliver proper infrastructure that communities deserve and need.”
It's the people who vote who need to pay the costs of infrastructure, and public pockets are not a limitless resource.
At the same time, the argument is that we need population growth to grow our economy, to provide the taxpayer base needed to fund our ageing population and to sustain the manufacturing and service industries that our country should have. Simply put, if we want to live in a First World society, with all its benefits, we need more taxpayers to fund it.
We end up with a cyclic, unending argument. We need infrastructure, so we need more immigration to provide the taxes, and inevitably we end up with more "shortages" of infrastructure that in turn means we need more population to pay for it, and the skills to build it all! With all this growth, we end up with more "ageing population" and thus need more young immigrants to compensate.
We are trapped in a myopic cycle of growth, shortages, a need for funds, thus add a few more people, ageing numbers increase, more infrastructure needed and more people! It's a vicious, misanthropic cycle of decline and artificial revival that will lead to a depletion of natural resources that won't end until the growth-lobby and government elite come out of their ivory towers and face the real, and finite, planet.
Editorial comment: Thanks for this insightful response to my comment, Enne K. Still, I think it needs to be pointed out that the "vicious cycle" is largely an illusion conjured up by politicians, the Growth Lobby and the newsmedia to further their own selfish ends at the expense of the majority of people and future generations. Any Government, with the will to serve ordinary people and not wealthy vested interests and which was prepared to apply itself diligently, could break this cycle over a short period of time.
The accident had to happen...and to create the alternative..