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Carr tries to justify Australian support for NATO war against Syria

Australia's new Foreign Minister Senator Bob Carr continues his predecessor's enthusiastic volunteering of Australia in the Coalition of the Willing, this time against Syria. Between 1991 and now, the Coalition caused the deaths of possibly 1,500,000

Iraqis and 20,000 Afghan civilians. A copy of the interview in which Carr repeated corporate media lies to justify action against Syria can be found on YouTube and is embedded in this article. Readers may wish to contrast Carr's words with facts about the Syrian conflict to be found on Global Research. See also: Young Syrian patriot fights corporate media lies against her homeland of 10 May 2012, Syria -70% vote to end one-party state - why aren't we celebrating? of 1 Mar 2012, Young Syrian patriot fights corporate media lies against her homeland of 12 Apr 2012 on candobetter, AN ONGOING DISASTER: Libya, Africa and Africom - More than 50,000 Deaths of 26 May.

Australia's new Foreign Minister Senator Bob Carr continues his predecessor's enthusiastic volunteering of Australia in the Coalition of the Willing, this time against Syria. Between 1991 and now, the Coalition caused the deaths of possibbly 1,500,000

Iraqis and 20,000 Afghan civilians. A copy of the interview in which Carr justify action against Syria due to civil conflict can be found on YouTube and is embedded in this article. Readers may wish to contrast Carr's words with facts about the Syrian conflict to be found on Global Research. See also: Syria -70% vote to end one-party state - why aren't we celebrating? of 1 Mar 2012 on candobetter, AN ONGOING DISASTER: Libya, Africa and Africom - More than 50,000 Deaths of 26 May.

By Geoffrey Taylor with Sheila Newman

Australia's new Foreign Minister, Senator Bob Carr, has wasted little time in rekindling Australia's participation in the Coalition of the Willing, this time against Syria. In 2003 the Coalition illegally invaded Iraq using, as a pretext, the fraudulent claim that Iraq posed a threat to the world with Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs). This followed Australia's participation in the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan, based on an inadequate official investigation of the events of 9/11. As a result of the 2003 invasion of Iraq one million Iraqis may have died according to one study in the British Lancet medical journal. In the ten years prior to that invasion a further one million Iraqis had died from hunger as a result of sanctions imposed upon Iraq by the US, Australia and its allies after the conclusion of the 1991 war against Iraq[1] in which a further 130,000 Iraqis were killed.

Since the Afghan War in 2001, a further 20,000 civilians have died.

Embedded below is a YouTube broadcast of a recent interview with Bob Carr in which he uses inflammatory corporate newsmedia reports about the Syrian conflict to justify the imposition of sanctions on Syria. The journalist in the interview asks Carr if he would consider expelling the Syrian ambassador and Carr does not rule this out.

Carr says nothing of the 2011 invasion of Libya, shamefully supported by Australia's previous foreign minister, Kevin Rudd, nor, of course, anything about Australia's past participation in the wars against Iraq and Afghanistan, mentioned above.

Nor does the interviewer. This is a failure of journalism to situate our current policy and actions in their historic context where our recent actions turned out to be entirely wrongly based. For instance, the fact that many Australians remain unaware that the excuse used by the US to invade Iraq, that it had weapons of mass destruction, was proven to be a CIA fabrication is a complete failure of journalism and national education. This is despite the clear accessibility of the truth in this case. (See Fair Game and the book of the same name.)

These continuing failures of accurate reporting by the Australian mass media - commercial and public - are shunting Australians and the rest of the world blindfolded towards a third world war with the Middle East.

In response to growing competition for ultimately scarce oil resources, world blocs have formed in an effort to get favorable terms for long-term access to Middle Eastern oil. What is going on now represents attempts to isolate Iran by disorganising and possibly invading its neighbours. Iranian oil reserves have been of great interest to the world since the early 20th century, beginning with Anglo-Persian oil. Iran continues to hold a disputed but considerable volume of remaining accessible oil reserves in the world and this is the reason that world attention is currently focused in this area. Iran's position on the Caspian Sea is critical. See "What's in it for Russia? Georgia, Ossetia, & Caspian oil and gas". Multi-national oil companies tend to be aligned with particular national blocs and rely on governments in their negotiations. Access to oil is never left to the international market alone.

Growth economics, combined with population growth in the first world has made us hungry for oil at almost any cost.

Above broadcast embedded from http://youtube.com/watch?v=0H9H2XsvS20

Australians seeking a more three dimensional view of these conflicts will find other views on Russia Today's media internet media outlet. The video, "Judging Syria," for instance, talks about how US allies, Saudi Arabia, are engaging in repressive violence that goes almost completely unreported in the media. Other videos ask why the media have lost interest in humanitarian causes in Libya when the country has now dissolved into armed gang warfare. The answer to that question probably resides in the very close cooperation between the Western political blocs and its mass media.

Get more background on Syria from the articles listed below

Here are links to articles about Syria from Global Research and Global Research TV, where readers can get more information than the Anglophone mainstream press provide. Please feel most welcome to add your comments below, whether critical or supportive.

SYRIA: NATO's Next "Humanitarian" War? - by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky - 2012-05-11

SYRIA: WESTERN POWERS ARE SUBVERTING THE PEACE PROCESSPress Conference, Syria's Permanent Representative to the United Nations - 2012-04-09

BREAKING NEWS, SYRIA: Imperialist Powers Manipulate Syrian "Peace Plan" to Prepare for All Out War - by Johannes Stern - 2012-04-09

VIDEO: Syrian Journalist: CNN, Al-Jazeera Falsifying Events in Syria Get all the info on GRTV - by Rahshan Saglam, Rafik Lutf - 2012-04-08

SYRIA AND THE UN: Diplomatic Confrontation at the UN regarding The Kofi Annan Syria "Peace Plan" - by Ronda Hauben - 2012-04-08

US-led conference backs Syrian puppet group, threatens war - by Niall Green - 2012-04-02

Shocking Report Reveals Terrorists' Crimes in Syria - 2012-03-28

Syria Denounces Foreign Support for Terrorism - 2012-03-25

VIDEO: US/NATO Proxy War in Syria Follows Precedent Set in Bosnia Find out more on GRTV- by Benjamin Schett - 2012-03-22

Syrian opposition accused of "human rights abuses" - by Chris Marsden - 2012-03-22

Bahrain Medics Show Trial: This Is Not Syria, Therefore No Western Outcry

MEDIA LIES: Deaths in Syria: Counting them (politically) correctly - 2012-03-19

SYRIA OPPOSITION TARGETS CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY: Christians Expelled from Homs by "Opposition" Al Qaeda Gunmen - 2012-03-18

SYRIA: Testimonies from Homs Reveal Identity of Terrorists and Mercenaries involved in Atrocities

Foiling Peace: The Imperial “Friends” of Syria - by Ben Schreiner - 2012-04-11

SYRIA: THE WINDS OF WAR - by Stephen Lendman - 2012-04-11

SYRIA’S "ROGUE ISLAMIST OPPOSITION": US-NATO’s New Lie in its Bid for Regime Change

Syrian Peace Deal: UN's Cloak to NATO's Dagger - by Tony Cartalucci - 2012-04-09

"RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT" SYRIA: A US-NATO "TROJAN HORSE" - by Carla Stea - 2012-04-09

Kofi Annan is the "War-maker" in Syria Interview- by Michel Chossudovsky - 2012-04-08

THE HISTORY OF "REGIME CHANGE": Putting Syria into some perspective - by William Blum - 2012-04-06

“Friends of Syria”—the Antechamber of a Wider Mideast War - by Bill Van Auken - 2012-04-04

VIDEO: Free Syrian Army Foot-Soldiers of Western Military Alliance - by Michel Chossudovsky - 2012-04-02

See also: Syria -70% vote to end one-party state - why aren't we celebrating? of 1 Mar 2012, Young Syrian patriot fights corporate media lies against her homeland of 12 Apr 2012 on candobetter, AN ONGOING DISASTER: Libya, Africa and Africom - More than 50,000 Deaths of 26 May.

Footnotes

[1] Iraq had been set up by US Ambassador to Kuwait, following Kuwait illegally slant drilling for oil under Iraqi territory. As shown in the transcript of the interview April Glaspie assured Hussein that there would be no adverse consequences from the US were Iraq to invade Kuwait in retaliation for the slant drilling.

As the US was preparing to attack Iraq in reprisal for the invasion, the Public Relations firm Hill and Knowlton manufactured the lie of the "incubator babies" to overcome opposition to the war. See YouTube broadcast, embedded on candobetter in this comment.

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Bob Carr within hours of gracious acceptance of yearned government foreign aristocracy, publicly invited noble bipartisan sharing of ideas and co-operation on foreign policy with the opposition leader Tony Abbott.

4th March 2012:

Carr said he will reach out to the federal opposition to try to engender a more bipartisan approach to Australian foreign policy.
Mr Carr said another of his top priorities in the role would be to reach out to the coalition.

"My door will be open to explore with the opposition further opportunities for the sharing of information and bipartisanship," he told reporters.
"After all this is about Australia, it's about Australia's place in the world.
"We can maximise this area of policy if it is above party political disputation."
[http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2012/03/04/450735_politics-news.html]

14th March 2012:

Immediately after his anointment, Carr was obviously taken aside by the Gillard puppetry and served a 'this is how it is, right!', only to then re-surface publicly with his now infamous acidic branding of Tony Abbott as a "cheapskate hypnotist".

..."He's saying to the electorate, 'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker - no more boats'," Mr Carr said.
"'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker in Labor's big bad tax'.
"'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker - debt and deficit'.
"The endless repetition of these slogans is like an attempt by a trainee hypnotist to work wonders on a cobra in a basket.
"I think the electorate is far too intelligent for this."

The Labor Faceless Party controls the country.

John Marlowe

Whilst John Marlowe sees the bipartisan support by the 'Labor' Government and the Opposition for NATO's war against Libya (and prior to that Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, ...) as 'noble', most informed people would understand that, amongst other things, to be a failure to offer Australians a choice at the ballot box. The most likely reason that Prime Minister Gillard objected to Carr's appeal for bipartisan support is to help maintain the illusion that Australians are given a real choice at Federal elections, when they rarely have since 1983.

As well as supporting the alliance with the US and all the wars that that entails Labor and Liberal also both support 'free market' economic neo-liberalism which obliges Federal, state and local governments to own almost no wealth-creating assets and provide as few services a possible.

I also note that John Marlowe has yet to show why he does not accept the articles listed above as evidence that claims made by Obama, Clinton and Bob Carr against Syria are untrue.

My comment on Carr was about his relativism.

Before annointment as Foreign Minister Carr promised A, afterwards, he demonstrated B, after a clear talking down by the Labor Party.
Read this again to be clear.

I do not support Carr, nor the Labor or Liberals on most things, especially foreign policy. (In my view Australia ought be regionally focused - Australian sovereignty, Aboriginal rights, and on the rights of indigenous (not colonists) - East Timor, Papua New Guinea, West Papua, Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, Boganville, Antarctica, Sri Lanka.)

Certainly what Lib/Labs do is not noble in this regard.
I was rather, in my comment above, describing Carr's sense of 'noble', not mine. Australia in my view has a foreign policy history of being ignoble.

I have not had time to read all the background to the Syrian issue that others have much more depth in understanding.
Perhaps my weakness is that I accept the dominant media (BBC/ABC) are reporting the truth. But if the truth is wrong, then the general public like me needs to be made more aware of the flaws/propaganda.

My main appeal on the Syrian civil war issue continues to be to stop the violence, not to take sides, not presume truths nor righteousness.
My real criticism is against those supplying the arms and the lack of control the UN has in this - which I read as UN incompetence.

John Marlowe

This was posted to sidwalker.info:

If you want to get an idea of how ineptly Bob Carr governed NSW and how unpopular he was, check out Bob Carr's words belied by his record as Premier of NSW of 1 Jan 2009. Much of that article consists of comments posted to the site http://www.abc.net.au/tv/fora/stories/2008/09/18/2362259.htm. Those words from members of the public which tore to shreds Carr's record as Premier have since been removed by 'your' ABC. So what has been put on my web-site remains the only accessible record of that valuable historical material of which I know.

If Bashar al Assad had governed Syria anywhere near as ineptly as Carr ruled NSW in those years he would have been removed from office years ago.

The following was posted to the Web Site of Australia's Foreign Minister Bob Carr, bobcarrblog.wordpress.com, and is awaiting moderation. Update: Comment published! Awaiting response - 2.15PM +1000, 30 August.

The comment below appeared in response to the three part SBS program on “Boat People” broadcast on Sunday, tonight and to be concluded tomorrow night. Whilst Jordan’s treatment of refugees may appear good on the surface, its support for the terrorist war against the Syrian people in alliance with the US, NATO, Israel and the dictatorships of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Qatar cause me to want to scrutinise these claims more closely.

I would be interested to know your response, Bob Carr, to what appears to be an even more exemplary treatment of refugees by Syria, particularly 1,000,000 refugees who fled from Iraq into Syria from the wars of 1991 and 2003 by the “Coalition of the Willing” including Australia?.

COMMENT FROM SBS PROGRAM ON THE BOAT PEOPLE:
http://www.sbs.com.au/goback/yoursay/topic/123/boats-and-the-media

daggett 24 hours ago

So, where has SBS ever acknowledged that the Syrian Government of Bashar al-Assad, which it so likes to demonise, has given refuge to 400,000 Palestinians and 1,000,000 Iraqis including 250,000 Iraqis who fled from the “Coalition of the Willing”, including Australia, in 2003? (See for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_Iraq)

Compared to Australia, which participated in two illegal wars and sanctions against Iraq, which killed 1,000,000 Iraqis (and wars against Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan, West Papua, Korea, etc), Syria is a model international citizen.

Who here believes that Australian sanctions against Syria will help refugees in Syria?

If not, then why do we permit the Australian Government to impose sanctions against Syria diplomatically support NATO’s proxy terrorist war against the Syrian people?
(comment from SBS ends.)

GLOBAL RESEARCH GIVES FACTUAL HONEST REPORTING OF SYRIA

If you want to be properly informed on the Syrian conflict, please look at the Canadian web-site Global Research at http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=newsHighlights&newsId=55 . Please feel welcome to show me where Global Research’s reporting of the Syrian conflict is contrary to the evidence and logic.

From Voltaire Net, 20 Jan 2014

Libyan nationalist forces regained control of several cities, especially in the sourthern part of the country.

Multiple anti-NATO demonstrations have been reported in the last three days.

The green flag is floating again Ajdabiya, Marsa el-Brega, the port of Ra’s Lanuf, Sabah, Suluq and even Tobruk.

The General National Congress, imposed by NATO—but partly made up of former Gaddafists, some of whom have remained secretly loyal—declared a state of emergency in the entire country.

There has never been a "revolution" in Libya, but a covert NATO operation to instigate the secession of Benghazi, using Al-Qaeda to overthrow the central government. Ultimately, NATO bombed Tripoli and murdered Muammar al-Gaddafi. The foreign "humanitarian" intervention resulted in the death of 160 000 people and forced the two-thirds of the population into exile.